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Veeam Offsite Backups

Post by Marcus » Jan 08, 2018 5:30 pm

Hi All,
I have a question re off site backups?
Currently I am using veeam enterprise B&R 9.5.
I am backing up my four hyper V VM's to a local Nass box.
I was looking at backing it up using cloud connect ( by using a Service provide)I find it very expensive £££
My 4 vms are 2.1 TB provisioned size and 1.4 used space.
Can you recommend another option??
I currently restore the VM’s to a recovery server I have set up.

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Re: Veeam Offsite Backups

Post by foggy » Jan 08, 2018 5:39 pm

Hi Marcus, have you compared the prices between different service providers? Pricing varies significantly between them.

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Re: Veeam Offsite Backups

Post by Mike Resseler » Jan 09, 2018 6:19 am

Marcus,

As Foggy says, please compare a few service providers. The prices can indeed vary and most probably the type of service that they offer also.

Another possibility to get your VM's offsite is by setting up a repository in AWS or Azure or similar and sent the data over there. That will mean though that you are fully responsible for the maintaining of that "infrastructure" yourself.
Last but not least there is still the option of tapes or using rotating devices.

There are different options, but if you make the price calculation, make sure you keep everything in mind such as the additional work that needs to be done on your side and the cost of recovery.

My 2 cents
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Re: Veeam Offsite Backups

Post by jochot » Jan 12, 2018 10:56 am

Hey,

I came to the same point as you did.
CloudConnect is expensive, but that is because it's not just simple storage you store your data in, in my offer they would host my VM if mine goes down, so it's more a 24/7 provider.

You can check Amazon Glacier for simple offsite backup, it takes longer to restore (you might have to wait up to 12h depending on what you buy) but it's "simple" storage and works with Veeam as as a Tape library (I think, didn't yet use it, I checked it some time ago)

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Re: Veeam Offsite Backups

Post by v.Eremin » Jan 13, 2018 2:04 pm

Kindly, leverage Glacier wisely, use it mostly for long-term backup data that is likely to stay unclaimed. Otherwise, it might be worth considering different option as in case of Glacier restore timeout and price might surprise you. Thanks.

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Re: Veeam Offsite Backups

Post by jochot » Jan 15, 2018 10:58 am

I think glacier would be for likely unclaimed data, as we have onside and offside Backup.
Glacier would be additional, so if I need to get backupdata from glacier, our HQ and our Datacenter would be burned down (I find that unlikely, and when it happens, we need to wait to order new hardware anyway, so time is not important here)
What do you mean with "leverage Glacier wisely"? (I do not know what leverage means in this sentence, sorry)
and "restore timeout" -> time to restore?

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Re: Veeam Offsite Backups

Post by v.Eremin » Jan 15, 2018 6:38 pm

leverage Glacier wisely
I meant that you have to use Glacier cautiously, understanding pros and cons this solution has.
and "restore timeout" -> time to restore?
The data cannot be restored immediately, first you need to place a data request order. Depending on the specified policy, order processing might take from minutes to hours. Check this article for more information.

Thanks.

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Re: Veeam Offsite Backups

Post by spgsit5upport » Jan 21, 2018 2:46 pm

I was checking the same, and any service provider came too expensive.
So it was cheaper to rent from my ISP 1/4 rack in they DR Datecentre, partition the bandwidth for dedicated connection, stick my own gear in Datacentre, do the Replication/Backup jobs pointing to DC storage

And it came cheaper & I have full control over it!

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