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Retention in SOBR and lots of general advice wanted

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VEEAM has been pretty much a "install, configure and forget" for us, of course we monitor backups daily and perform checks and restores so apologies for my lack of the correct terminology and of course feel free to tell me I'm doing something wrong or could do it better :)

We're on 11a and backup ESXi VMs. Our Veeam server is a physical host with local storage. Our backups are incremental daily and a full month end backup, we split the jobs into groups of servers based on role, so all web servers together, all DCs together, all app servers together etc. and our single file server by itself.

The retention period for most jobs is 180 days (6 months) and we backup to a SOBR Repository (Azure Blob) which is set to move backups to the cloud after 31 days. My understanding is that I can get anything back "quickly" within 31 days as it's local, and anything older than that I can pull back from Azure. I also have backup copy jobs setup that copy the backups offsite immediately and finally I have replication jobs setup that replicate certain critical servers to our DR site so that they're ready to go at a moments notice. Last but not least I have tape backups that run immediately after the monthly full backups and put those full backups on tapes which are then taken away offsite.

The problem with SOBR is that my file server (and mail servers) is large and takes up a huge amount of backup space on the VEEAM server so my retention period is only a few days. This is a problem as you can see for a few reasons. 1) I can't go back too far for restores; and 2) it never reaches the 31 day age that means it'll get moved to the Azure Blob Storage. I'd like to keep my file server backups for a few months in Azure at least.

GFS isn't enabled anywhere

I guess I am asking a few different things here:
1) Incremental Daily, Full monthly. Is that ok? Should I be doing Synthetic fulls?
2) Storage Level corruption guard (aka healthchecks) - Should I enable these on all jobs? Is there a performance hit and how often should I do them? Right now they're not enabled and I thought that since the storage is local that I didn't need them, however, rather safe than sorry.
3) Most importantly - How can I get my file server backups to keep more restore points without filling up my local storage. The three options I see are: a) Enable GFS and tell it to keep monthly backups for 6 months, would those GFS backups immediately go to Azure as it's outside of the 31 days as set in the SOBR?; and b) Use the "Copy backups to object storage as soon as they are created" in the SOBR ;or c) Purchase more local storage, sadly that isn't too easy at the moment as we run RAID 6 and the server is full so it'd be a case of replacing all the disks, a very expensive process, however if you tell me that it's the only way to do it, then I'll persevere with finance :)

Apologies as a "quick quesion" because quite in depth!
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Re: Retention in SOBR and lots of general advice wanted

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Hello,
1) if you don't have much space, I would go with weekly synthetic full on REFS / XFS . Monthly active full would also work, but the incremental backup chain could become longer
2) read performance is needed. distributing load over multiple days makes sense.
3) a) is good. only inactive backup chains are moved. b) does not save space, but sure, also a good idea for redundancy. c) not an option as far as I see d) create a second SOBR with move after <less> days. I know customers that do synthetic full every day and move after two days...

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Re: Retention in SOBR and lots of general advice wanted

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Thats great Hannes, thank you.

Just on point 3 - If I enable GFS and tell it to do a monthly which will fall out of the operational restore window, I assume it first puts the backup in the repository and when complete it immediately moves it to the Azure storage?
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Re: Retention in SOBR and lots of general advice wanted

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I assume it first puts the backup in the repository
correct
immediately moves it to the Azure storage?
no, if you configured "older than 31 days" then you need to wait at least 31 days
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Perfect, makes sense. Thanks again.
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