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[Feature Request] Retry Failed Objects

Post by agrob » 2 people like this post

Good Day

Are there any plans to implement a "retry failed objects" option in case of a failed backup job in VBO?
If i have a VBO Backup job with 700 Users OneDrive to backup and one or two are failed, i just want to retry those failed users the next day. Not running the whole job again.

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That is a great request and we’ll look into it if this can be added in a future version.
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I agree with this feature request. This would be very beneficial.
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Hi Wes!

First: Welcome to our forums!
Second: Noted.
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Isn't this kind of already there if you use "retry failed object processing" of the job scheduler? At least for me, this only retrys the objects which have failed before.
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It does, but when it fails for the 3rd time, in that case the next day it will be a full retry again. So it might be a solution to keep the successful data no matter what. To be discussed with the development teams
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Hi,
Sorry to bring back this 3 years old tread, but any update on that feature request?
Is it planned for a future release?

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Hi Andre,

The feature is here, but a bit different. So let's say the backup failed on 2 objects, then we have all the other 698 objects (from the example of OP) and when you run the backup again, it will only need to download the changed items for the 698 objects between the new backup and failed backup. The 2 failed objects obviously are different, there we need to download the data between new backup and previous succeeded backup
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Hi Mike,

Yes it is running and incremental job, but there is a differentce between retry to backup 2 failed items vs running and incremental job on 700 items, we talk about minutes vs hours of running time.
When the scheduled job failled it is able to do a retry on only the 2 failed items and not all the 700 items.

It would be nice if we do the same thing and restart only the failed item.
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+1 to this. How is this nonsense still in the backup logic? We are having seriously performance problems with incremental rescans so a few odd failed items can kill our backups for days.
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+1 for me as well. i started the feature request exactly to only backup the failed items, not to process all other items as well. so please make an option just to reprocess the failed items. thanks
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All, this logic is already there.

1. Retries of failed objects are performed during the main backup job run. VBO immediately (i.e. during the main job run) makes several attempts to process items that failed for processing.

2. If the immediate retries still were not successful, failed items (and only the failed items or items with warnings) will be processed on job retries (the number of which you configure for each backup job). Each job retry only takes items that failed on the previous run (i.e. if the main job is completed with 3 items, retry 1 will process only these 3 items. If retry 1 completes with 2 items success and 1 failed, retry 2 will process the 1 failed item).
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Thanks Polina, i guess we all know that. But sometimes the backup admin checks the job status in the morning and then just want to manually restart the failed object. like we can do in vbr... this is what we would like to have in vbo as well. please :) thanks
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Oh, gotcha )
Need more coffee... ))
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+1. Even in V6 this is still not possible. There's no manual retry, other than waiting for the next automatic retry. But if all those retries fail, there's no way to do it manually other than starting an entire run.
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Hi Franc,

Your vote is counted. However, I should note that if non of the automatical retries were successful, typically it means that there's no technical possibility to back up such a failed item and manual retry would hardly be of any help in this case.
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well, in our case it is. We have just completed our migration and there were issues with permissions on public folders (the veeam backup account didn't have any). So it failed when backing up those public folders. The backup runs at night, so all retries failed also. After fixing the issue it would be nice to do a retry instead of a full run, since even incrementals take quite some time to process all mailboxes, even if there's not much data to be backed up.

Veeam B&R does have this option to retry a job even if automatic retries failed.
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OK, that makes sense. No promises, but I'll make sure to get back to this FR when we get some open dev cycles.

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Thanks!
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Hey,

so we are now in Version 7 of VBO365 and still no Feature to retry Objects with Errors/Warnings.

Is this gona be changed at some Point of time or what is the Gameplan here?

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Hi Mathias and welcome to the Forums!

It may come at some point, but as of now, it's not at the top of our priorities list.

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+1 from me, since the logic is already there you would think this is more a fairly simple gui feature than a complete overhaul of the product.
Alternatively a retry possibility with powershell would also be fine with me ;-)

On the topic of feature requests, adding a column with the timestamp in the gui logs (bottom right) would be very welcome, same as in VBR, interestingly these timestamps are present when you retrieve them with powershell.
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+1 from me as well. It is really frustrating having to either run a full backup or wait for the daily run to see if a problem has been fixed. A retry failed items would be much appreciated.
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Would like this as well. Sometimes the failure are time related (for example MS throttling) so we'd like to manually retry after the automatic retries but before the next back interval. Right now I'm forced to do a backup of all objects.
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