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backup <1TB does not fit on 1 LTO-5 tape
Hello,
It's not really an issue, but I was hoping to fit this backup on 1 tape.
When trying to put a backup (latest full only) on a LTO-5 tape it doesn't fit and asks for a 2nd tape.
LTO-5 has a native capacity of 1,5TB (and 3TB compressed that you'll never get).
Why is it that a backup that's smaller than 1TB on disk don't fit on 1 tape then?
The original backup is made using Veeam Agent for Windows.
I have a backup copy job with GFS and only the minimum possible restore points for this 1 Agent Backup.
In my tape job I use the BackupCopy job as source, and I have it set to only use the latest full backup and not include incrementals.
On my first attempt Tape hardware compression was off (as is by default) on my second attempt it was on but still doesn't fit (almost ...).
This is a screenshot of the JOB statistics detail:
https://i.imgur.com/GlMEBxe.png
This is a screenshot of the properties in the backup files overview:
https://i.imgur.com/TLb4gbE.png
This is a screenshot of the backup files from the backupCopy Job that's used as source
https://i.imgur.com/9Ct79PK.png
Thanks for any insights.
It's not really an issue, but I was hoping to fit this backup on 1 tape.
When trying to put a backup (latest full only) on a LTO-5 tape it doesn't fit and asks for a 2nd tape.
LTO-5 has a native capacity of 1,5TB (and 3TB compressed that you'll never get).
Why is it that a backup that's smaller than 1TB on disk don't fit on 1 tape then?
The original backup is made using Veeam Agent for Windows.
I have a backup copy job with GFS and only the minimum possible restore points for this 1 Agent Backup.
In my tape job I use the BackupCopy job as source, and I have it set to only use the latest full backup and not include incrementals.
On my first attempt Tape hardware compression was off (as is by default) on my second attempt it was on but still doesn't fit (almost ...).
This is a screenshot of the JOB statistics detail:
https://i.imgur.com/GlMEBxe.png
This is a screenshot of the properties in the backup files overview:
https://i.imgur.com/TLb4gbE.png
This is a screenshot of the backup files from the backupCopy Job that's used as source
https://i.imgur.com/9Ct79PK.png
Thanks for any insights.
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Re: backup <1TB does not fit on 1 LTO-5 tape
Probably you've got a bum write header on the drive.
Try a full tape write test with your vendor tools and disable compression and see how much it writes. I'll betcha it stops well before the 1.5 TB capacity.
Try a full tape write test with your vendor tools and disable compression and see how much it writes. I'll betcha it stops well before the 1.5 TB capacity.
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Re: backup <1TB does not fit on 1 LTO-5 tape
Harvey is right. Tape degradation can shrink the capacity of your media as tape drive might write identical data block several times if it's not readable during read check.
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Re: backup <1TB does not fit on 1 LTO-5 tape
Does this mean that even if the drive heads are failing, Veeam checked that every block written is readable?
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[MERGED] Tape Backup needs to much space
Hi Guys,
i am using a Tape Job to backup my "Backup to NAS" Job to tape.
The last full file ist about 2,7TB big (compressed) and I am Using a internal SAS IBM ULTRIUM-HH6 Tape Drive with 2,3TB space (for compressed data).
The Job works fine since 3 years now. But now the Job needs 3! instead of 2 tapes.
After contact with Veeam Support, they analysed the log Files and told us that everything seems fine with the jobs and we should test the tape drive with vendor tools.
With the IBM Vendor tools "Write/Read" tests went fine, only at the Health test a "Performance failed" warning appears. But i don't know what this mean.
Does anyone has experience with such problems?
Thanks!
Windows Server 2008 R2
Newest Veeam Version
IBM Ultrium HH6 Tape drive (3.5 years old)
LTO 6 Tapes (about 85 write cycles)
i am using a Tape Job to backup my "Backup to NAS" Job to tape.
The last full file ist about 2,7TB big (compressed) and I am Using a internal SAS IBM ULTRIUM-HH6 Tape Drive with 2,3TB space (for compressed data).
The Job works fine since 3 years now. But now the Job needs 3! instead of 2 tapes.
After contact with Veeam Support, they analysed the log Files and told us that everything seems fine with the jobs and we should test the tape drive with vendor tools.
With the IBM Vendor tools "Write/Read" tests went fine, only at the Health test a "Performance failed" warning appears. But i don't know what this mean.
Does anyone has experience with such problems?
Thanks!
Windows Server 2008 R2
Newest Veeam Version
IBM Ultrium HH6 Tape drive (3.5 years old)
LTO 6 Tapes (about 85 write cycles)
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[MERGED] Tape Backup needs to much space
Hello elcotrade,
we had similiar effect on customer with a Dell drive, which is in fact a rebranded IBM.
Analysis by Dell resulted in broken tape drive, they replaced it and space consume went back to normal.
Greets,
Adrian
we had similiar effect on customer with a Dell drive, which is in fact a rebranded IBM.
Analysis by Dell resulted in broken tape drive, they replaced it and space consume went back to normal.
Greets,
Adrian
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[MERGED] Tape Backup needs to much space
I have ereased the tape now with ibm tools, started a Veeam Job -> after 1,2 TB the tape is full.
I will order a new tape drive. I hope thats the issue..
Thanks
I will order a new tape drive. I hope thats the issue..
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Re: backup <1TB does not fit on 1 LTO-5 tape
Tape getting old likely to be the root case. For drive issues, I'd recommend checking with the tape vendor's support (and perform drive cleaning prior calling support)Does this mean that even if the drive heads are failing
Read check is performed by device itself. After block has been written to tape, device reads it. If read was successful - drive will write another data block, if read fails - drive writes the same block again and reads it again.Veeam checked that every block written is readable?
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Re: backup <1TB does not fit on 1 LTO-5 tape
My vendor tools also complained about health issues with the tape drive, so that's indeed the reason.
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Re: backup <1TB does not fit on 1 LTO-5 tape
Hello elcotrade,
is your problem resolved with the new Drive?
Would be nice to Add a [Resolved] to topic.
Greets,
Adrian
is your problem resolved with the new Drive?
Would be nice to Add a [Resolved] to topic.
Greets,
Adrian
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