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Feature Request for Backup Copy Scheduled Active Full

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Hi all
I have a feature request that we see around Veeam and Data Domain (or maybe on all Deduplication devices)
We have our Data Domains only for Backup Copies and for having copies out of the DC's and also for long term storage.

The problem as we see it is based on all Backup Copies are done as Syntethetic Full. This creates situations where the synthetic full grows out of proportion, wee SQL servers that are 1TB in size having synthetic full at 60TB in size. Of course this will be deduplicated on the Data Domains but this causes "old" blocks to be kept in the Data Domain and keeping unnecessary space in the storage.
This can be solved by GFS and "Read entire restore point from source" but in situations where you don't want to keep GFS the only way we see it is to run an Active Full.

So the feature requsest is to be able to schedule the Bakcup Copy Active Full
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How often are you planning to run active full backup? I'm wondering cause typical active full schedule is weekly or monthly, which does not seem to be that different from "Read entire restore point from source" along with weekly/monthly GFS. Thanks!
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Hi
For our test environment we don't do GFS and since "Read entire restore point from source" is only available with GFS this is a tricky one. We could tick the GFS box, save 1 weekly full and use "Read entire restore point from source" but still to us it would be better to be able to say one monthly full on the schedule.
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To be able to create one Active Full in a month to create a new "fresh" backup chain means that we don't have to have the extra GFS just to be able to read all from source
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Re: Feature Request for Backup Copy Scheduled Active Full

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You can disable weekly, enable 1 monthly and tick the „ Read entire restore point from source“.

With Veeam V11, you will now have a monthly Active Fulls forward incremental chain.

Or use Powershell to schedule a Active Full with task scheduler:

https://helpcenter.veeam.com/docs/backu ... ml?ver=110
This command creates an active full for the "AD Backup Copy" job.

1) Run Get-VBRJob to get the job. Save it to the $ad variable.

2) Run Sync-VBRBackupCopyJob with this variable and FullBackup parameter.

$ad = Get-VBRJob -Name "AD Backup Copy"
Sync-VBRBackupCopyJob -Job $ad -FullBackup
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Thanks Mildur, where in V11 is the Active Full forward incremental defined as this will probably solve our issues.
One problem with the current GFS setting to enable the "Read entire restore point from source..." is that we get more than 30 points due to Monthly and Running Fulls.
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Re: Feature Request for Backup Copy Scheduled Active Full

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Fabian means that in v11 we've changed the retention algorithm for backup copy GFS and it works similarly to the one used in regular backup jobs in v10. If you just enable the 'Read entire restore point..." check box with the monthly setting, you will have the forward incremental chain with monthly active fulls.
One problem with the current GFS setting to enable the "Read entire restore point from source..." is that we get more than 30 points due to Monthly and Running Fulls.
This will be the case regardless of whether the check box is enabled or not, even in case you trigger Active Full manually. This is just how forward incremental chain works - sometimes you have more restore points on disk than you've configured.
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