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Help with Retention Plan based on drive space

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I'm having trouble with running out of drive space with my current retention plan settings. I am currently using B&R in my home lab to backup my server and a two laptops.

I have a 12GB external drive that I setup with two partitions. One formatted as NTFS with 9300GB of space (Drive "X"), and the second as ReFS with 2450GB of space (Drive "V"). I had some corruption in the past while using ReFS, so that's why I have the majority of the space allocated as NTFS.

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I have the below backup jobs configured:

Server - Entire Volumn (1.5TB) backed up with 10 day retention policy. GFS is configured to keep a full backup for 2 weeks and 1 full per month. I also have synthetic full backups set to create every Tuesday. Maintenance set to remove deleted after 7 days. This backs up to drive X with 9300GB of space
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Workstations - Entire computer backed up with a 7 day retention. GFS is configured to keep a full backup for 3 weekly, 6 monthly, and 1 yearly. Synthetic full backups set to every Monday. Maintenance to remove deleted after 7 days. This backs up to drive V with 2450GB of space.

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I also have the Workstation backup configured for a Backup Copy job which copies to drive X. Maybe this is not the best choice, but with the prior corruption on the ReFS formatted drive, I thought it would be good to have a copy going to an NTFS as well.

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I'm hopeful that someone could provide some guidance on perhaps some better settings. My server backup takes the most space so I've changed the retention policy to only keep backups for 7 days instead of 10. But the backups on the X drive are not falling off. The full backups also appear to be failing. Here is an image of the folder for the server backups.

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Daily backups for my server is failing with the error "Failed to process method {Transform.CompileFIB}: There is not enough space on the disk."

How do I remove just the past several days worth of backups to free space up? It appears that changing the retention plan didn't clean them up.
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Re: Help with Retention Plan based on drive space

Post by Mildur »

Hello Jadon
I have a 12GB external drive that I setup with two partitions. One formatted as NTFS with 9300GB of space (Drive "X"), and the second as ReFS with 2450GB of space (Drive "V"). I had some corruption in the past while using ReFS, so that's why I have the majority of the space allocated as NTFS.
I believe Microsoft doesn't support reFS on external drives. Better to check with Microsoft and make sure that your disk model and connection method is supported.
My server backup takes the most space so I've changed the retention policy to only keep backups for 7 days instead of 10. But the backups on the X drive are not falling off.
You have weekly synthetic full backups configured, which means the backup job will generate a 3.2 TB file (according to your Explorer screenshot) every week. The short-term retention policy (your 7-day retention) will actually store at least 14 days of backups (2 full backups + 12 daily incrementals). We can't delete your oldest VBK (full backup file) and VIBs (incremental backup files) after just 7 days since they are still needed to restore from the other incremental backups in that chain. Old backup files are deleted only when the full backup and all its incremental backups fall outside the 7-day retention period.

Given this setup, you will never be able to store your 2 weekly full backups plus 1 monthly full backup on a 9.1 TB disk using NTFS. This is because 3 full backups at 3.2 TB each would total 9.6 TB alone, which exceeds your available storage. Furthermore, a new VBK needs to be created before older backups can be deleted.

With NTFS and your current retention settings, I would recommend ensuring you have at least 16 TB of disk space available as your repository to accommodate your backup requirements.

Please check out our calculator. Either lower your retention or buy bigger storage:
https://www.veeam.com/calculators/simpl ... ines/agent
How do I remove just the past several days worth of backups to free space up? It appears that changing the retention plan didn't clean them up.
The retention from the job can only be applied 7 days after a new full backup is created. You have not enough storage to create new full backups. Clean up will never happen. In that case you have to manually delete all backup files to free up storage for a new start.

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Re: Help with Retention Plan based on drive space

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So there is no other way except to remove all of the backup files? I'll loose all of my restore points for the past week if I do this. Are there plans to integrate a way to remove restore points without deleting all and starting over?
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Re: Help with Retention Plan based on drive space

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Removing older incremental restore points in an incremental backup chain requires free scratch/working space on the volume in any case, as we need to reconstruct the base full (which is the older backup in any incremental chain).

You can use Export Backup functionality to export some restore points to any other storage and delete the entire chain knowing you still have some restore points available in case you need them.

Alternatively, you can convert your simple backup repository into scale-out backup repository by adding another storage extent and just continue your backups normally.
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