Broadcom / VMware debacle

[Gostev]

Seen as a client/outsider, Veeam has increasingly been adding support for additional enterprise virtualization platforms anyway

That's the correct observation in fact, we will be shipping Scale Computing HyperCore integration today!

[RubinCompServ]

Seen as a client/outsider, Veeam has increasingly been adding support for additional enterprise virtualization platforms anyway, so I suppose the VMware debacle just leveraged even more this strategy and probably lead to reallocation of considerable R&D resources away from VMware onto the main VMware alternatives nowadays and to new kids around the block that show the greatest potential (e.g. Proxmox).

Just my 2 cents.

That is, indeed, what I was wondering. Right now, Veeam has a number of features that are only available in their "VMware flavor" (such as CDP), and I'm wondering if we can look forward to seeing them elsewhere (such as Proxmox or Nutanix).

[Gostev]

Likewise I'm wondering if we can look forward to seeing other hypervisors reach the level of adoption that is comparable to VMware 10 years ago. Because this will make the decision to implement that "number of advanced features" for such hypervisors much easier for us. While at this time, our best bet is to cast a wider net and see what gets into one.

[MPECSInc]

Yet another change coming whereby VCSP program is coming to an end so unless you are a large partner then cannot have a self-hosted cloud. No new commits available to buy after October this year and have to have migrated off by early 2027.

Link please?

[RubinCompServ]

@MPECSInc:

https://www.itpro.com/cloud/cloud-compu ... om-changes

https://www.macquariecloudservices.com/ ... fects-you/

https://www.theregister.com/2025/07/16/ ... ram_again/

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=vmware+licens ... tsa&ia=web

[MPECSInc]

@MPECSInc:

https://www.itpro.com/cloud/cloud-compu ... om-changes

https://www.macquariecloudservices.com/ ... fects-you/

https://www.theregister.com/2025/07/16/ ... ram_again/

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=vmware+licens ... tsa&ia=web

Ah, I got it thank you.

I don't see Broadcom's long term strategy to keep anything in all of their VMware product line, partner program(s), or anything else for that matter that has anything to do with the bottom 80% of their customers given the top 20% represent 80% of the revenue the company makes.

[Steve-nIP]

The strategy has been publicly communicated before the buyout: shed all the smaller and medium-size customers, keep the largest ones and milk them whilst reducing investment in development.
Kind of a standard and cynical business model for Broadcom, and a disappointing conclusion to VMware's story.

[pybfr]

That is, indeed, what I was wondering. Right now, Veeam has a number of features that are only available in their "VMware flavor" (such as CDP), and I'm wondering if we can look forward to seeing them elsewhere (such as Proxmox or Nutanix).

One part of the equation is that Vmware provided a lot of API and entry points for us to use to implement advanced features.

Most of the other hypervisors are not there yet, so we are doing quite a bit of development to be able to offer new features "on our own" like Universal CDP:

https://community.veeam.com/vcsp-cloud- ... g-up-10558

[RubinCompServ]

Will the Universal CDP be able to write to any platform, or will we still be limited to vSphere and Hyper-V?

[Gostev]

vSphere initially, then TBD.

[jspeicher]

Anyone heard VergOS ? Verge.io

seeing you ask this have you tried to use Veeam with Verge?

[ASG]

Likewise I'm wondering if we can look forward to seeing other hypervisors reach the level of adoption that is comparable to VMware 10 years ago. Because this will make the decision to implement that "number of advanced features" for such hypervisors much easier for us. While at this time, our best bet is to cast a wider net and see what gets into one.

Hi Gostev,

for us - and a number of other smaller customers I know - it's a bit of chicken or the egg. For example we use surebackup quiet a lot for testing and our new hypervisor of choice should be able to run surebackups. So we can only switch to a new one if it supports surebackup. But I understand that for you to implement more features (like surebackup) a hypervisor needs a more wider userbase.

We renewed vmware for now (with a wopping +225% pricetag to our previos bought enterprise plus license - so 335% all in all) to see where veeam is going in terms of "more features for hypervisor x/y/z" and will see where we are going then

[SAFA_IT]

Exactly the same position here - paying a lot more to Broadcom to keep the features of Veeam that I want. If Veeam gave an indication of which recently added hypervisor was likely to get SureBackup and replication first, that's the one I would consider. Looking at the forum, based on posts it looks like KVM based is the most popular of the more recent additions. I'm just not convinced that they are all long term options. Example - OLVM runs on Oracle Linux 8, which is end of life at the same time as Windows Server 2019.

[tgx]

VMware lost sight of where it came from. I started using it at version 1.
Regardless of whether small fry are 'cost centers', you don't handle things the
way Broadcom did. I was not personally shocked by Broadcom's moves, I had
previous experience with their methods of doing business which is why as soon
as the merger became final we started to abandon that sinking ship. Veeam made
the transition soooo much smoother for us. If you are looking for a nice replacement,
we've been running Proxmox for almost a year now and don't miss VMware at all.
Maybe you need some advanced feature we don't, but it is a worthy replacement I would
say for most of us '80% bottom of the barrel cost centers'.

[ITP-Stan]

I'm betting on Proxmox too, but would like some more feature parity.

[MPECSInc]

VMware lost sight of where it came from. I started using it at version 1.
Regardless of whether small fry are 'cost centers', you don't handle things the
way Broadcom did. I was not personally shocked by Broadcom's moves, I had
previous experience with their methods of doing business which is why as soon
as the merger became final we started to abandon that sinking ship. Veeam made
the transition soooo much smoother for us. If you are looking for a nice replacement,
we've been running Proxmox for almost a year now and don't miss VMware at all.
Maybe you need some advanced feature we don't, but it is a worthy replacement I would
say for most of us '80% bottom of the barrel cost centers'.

Indeed, Broadcom's acquisition plans are always, IMO, executed with surgical precision.

I'm still leery of a company that had a 9-5 support time slot in the European time zone in very recent times to be a dependable product for small to medium enterprise and up. It takes time to train up a crew to run a 24/7 support network and farming it out (offshoring) is usually a complete disaster for the end user. So, we'll see if we start to encounter misery stories for those that made that move.