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6.1 - VeeamZip Scheduled jobs?

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How would someone schedule a VeeamZip job vs. a Copy or Backup job?

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Re: 6.1 - VeeamZip Scheduled jobs?

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VeeamZIP backups are ad-hoc only, so If you want to have a scheduled VM backup, use regular backup jobs instead. Thanks!
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Thanks. Issue is we don't have enough local disk to do regular backups currently. So I've been doing copy jobs, backing them to tape, and then deleting the files on disk before going on to the next copy job. Having the ability to schedule VeeamZip jobs would be nice. That would compress them and help not store as much on tape which would be good. I suppose I could zip the files via my powershell script to do the same as this. Oh well. Thanks anyway.
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Re: 6.1 - VeeamZip Scheduled jobs?

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jcwuerfl wrote:Having the ability to schedule VeeamZip jobs would be nice.
VeeamZIP with scheduling functionality is a backup job, so it is already there ;) How does scheduling help you to save space on the target storage?
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I supposed having VeeamZIP scheduling functionality will save much more on money than space, since for many environment it will be good enough, and it would be free. I cannot see how full-only backups will save on space compared to incremental ones, but I suspect also the OP knows this... 8)

And I can bet it's why scheduling option is not available in VeeamZIP...
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Re: 6.1 - VeeamZip Scheduled jobs?

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jcwuerfl wrote:Thanks. Issue is we don't have enough local disk to do regular backups currently. So I've been doing copy jobs, backing them to tape, and then deleting the files on disk before going on to the next copy job.
You should setup regular Veeam backup job with the following settings: reversed-incremental backup mode, 1 restore point to keep. Do not delete backup files (with these settings, you don't need to).
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For automating ad-hoc VeeamZIP backups, we are adding the corresponding PowerShell cmdlet in the next patch. This will allow you to trigger ad-hoc backup of any VM from the script, and then initiate tape backup and delete the backup file from disk in the same script. But, keep in mind that PowerShell API is only available with paid edition of our product (not sure which edition you are using). Thanks!
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Hi Anton,

that sounds great, that the PowerShell API will be extended for Veeam ZIP.
Are you able to provide a Date, when this patch will be available?

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There is no ETA yet, as we need to get enough "bad" bugs reported to justify the patch release... which appears to be a hard task with 6.1 ;)
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We will be trying to release it sooner rather than later, as it has at least 3 fairly major enhancements that we want out of the door (not a bugfix). But we also don't want to release patches too often (as nobody likes to upgrade often), so we need to balance here, and make sure we capture all common issues right away, so that you don't have to upgrade to another patch soon.
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I have Enterprise so having the powershell api for Veeamzip would be great start with this. For any kind of full or synthethec full i would need about 1.5tb I found by doing a backup recording the size on disk for each VM and i have about 500gb and thats with the normal veeam compression. What i cant seem to do as easy is delete the veeam backup off disk like i can with the Veeam copy jobs and powershell. Perhaps I will post my veeam copy poweshell script for feedback. Glad to hear that might be available soon.
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VeeamZIP cmdlet has been implemented, and will be available with 6.1 Patch 1 release.
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awesome! and thats why I love veeam!
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Hi,

I have read on other posts on this forum that from 6.1, scheduling was introduced through the powershell API's. I am looking for some more detailed instructions, any body able to help?

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Hi Nick,

VeeamZIP scheduling options will be introduced through the PowerShell API for paid versions of Veeam B&R only.

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hi,
I need to do the same for my customer. they want to make a zip copy of vm to a local disk of backup server, get it with tape library and then delete it.
It would be nice if, for enterprise edition, veeamzip will be schedulable, so the user can make a specific job by gui.
They need this feature because they haven't enough space on high availability storage.

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Gostev wrote: You should setup regular Veeam backup job with the following settings: reversed-incremental backup mode, 1 restore point to keep. Do not delete backup files (with these settings, you don't need to).
what does you mean when you say "do not delete backup files" ? which attributes? do u refer to advanced settings - advanced - VM retention ? how many days do you set?

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Re: 6.1 - VeeamZip Scheduled jobs?

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Hi Nick,

Scheduled VeeamZIP job will take the same amount of free space as a reversed incremental backup job with a retention policy configured to save only 1 restore point.

There is no need to delete backup files prior running the next reversed incremental backup job pass, as during incremental run new data will be injected to the VBK file (latest backup state) and you will have only 1 full backup file at the end of the job pass.

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Re: 6.1 - VeeamZip Scheduled jobs?

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We could do that, but then they would be need to be deleted off disk so the next VM would have enough space to be backed up to disk, then tape. aka 500gb isn't much when you are trying to backup about 120 VMs. To keep all of our backups on disk I found I would need about 2TB of storage including compression etc. Found that out by backing up each VM recording the size on disk and then deleting it and did that for all of our VMs.

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Re: 6.1 - VeeamZip Scheduled jobs?

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Hi,
I've updated Veeam to the latest patch to get access to the PowerShell cmdlet for VeeamZip (yes, paid version), but I'm having a really hard time figuring out how to set up a script to set up a scheduled job. Is there any documentation that would get me started on setting this up? I've looked around, but I haven't had any success in finding anything yet.
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Hi Jeremy,

Since VeeamZIP does not have any scheduling options even in the GUI, but rather is a manually triggered process, you should be using Windows Task Manager to schedule your VeeamZIP PowerShell script.

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Thanks Vitaliy,
That part I understand... It's creating the script that has me stumped - I have no idea the format or the syntax required. I was hoping to find some documentation, or a starter script that I can work with. Once I have this script the scheduling is easy. I'm really looking forward to setting this up, as we use Veeam for our own backups, and have several clients that do as well.
Thanks for your help!
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Jeremy, you can get the PowerShell reference guide at the product page on our web site (under the Resources tab) and/or search this forum for script examples - there are a handful of them.
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Is there a way to schedule a Veeam Zip backup for a VM or is it only possible manually?

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