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mjr.epicfail
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VBR (V13) and Entra backup user license count
Hi,
I'm trying to make sense of the licenses count for Entra backups.
Rolled out a new VBR, configured Entra tenant, and made a backup job.
There are some 60+ users in Entra where around +-20 are Member and Active.
When checking the required licenses (rental) in the GUI I can only see the required license 10packs, not the "real per user license need".
In the API, I get the same response: the x times 10pack required.
Is there a way to see how many users are counted towards the license in VBR GUI or API?
I'm trying to make sense of the licenses count for Entra backups.
Rolled out a new VBR, configured Entra tenant, and made a backup job.
There are some 60+ users in Entra where around +-20 are Member and Active.
When checking the required licenses (rental) in the GUI I can only see the required license 10packs, not the "real per user license need".
In the API, I get the same response: the x times 10pack required.
Is there a way to see how many users are counted towards the license in VBR GUI or API?
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Re: VBR (V13) and Entra backup user license count
I also have a supportcase: 07904572
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Re: VBR (V13) and Entra backup user license count
Hi Danny,
I noticed you added a similar comment in the API topic.
I’ll need to check with QA and do some research to see if there’s currently a way to achieve that.
May I ask why you need the user count? Are you looking to bill per member account instead of billing the entire “10‑pack”?
Best,
Fabian
I noticed you added a similar comment in the API topic.
I’ll need to check with QA and do some research to see if there’s currently a way to achieve that.
May I ask why you need the user count? Are you looking to bill per member account instead of billing the entire “10‑pack”?
Best,
Fabian
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Re: VBR (V13) and Entra backup user license count
It’s 2fold.
While I trust the calculation done by veeam, I want to be able to check if the calculation is done right.
Like in the example , the user count shown in the Job is higher than the license count. I know that only active enabled members are counted but there is currently no way to check this.
Maybe I’ll add a FR to and endpoint to show the user count per configured and backedup Microsoft tenant. Similar like vb365 seat count.
While I trust the calculation done by veeam, I want to be able to check if the calculation is done right.
Like in the example , the user count shown in the Job is higher than the license count. I know that only active enabled members are counted but there is currently no way to check this.
Maybe I’ll add a FR to and endpoint to show the user count per configured and backedup Microsoft tenant. Similar like vb365 seat count.
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Re: VBR (V13) and Entra backup user license count
Hi Danny,
A quick update — I’ve reached out to our REST API/PowerShell team to check if there’s any unsupported method available today.
If not, I’ll note it as an improvement request.
Best,
Fabian
A quick update — I’ve reached out to our REST API/PowerShell team to check if there’s any unsupported method available today.
If not, I’ll note it as an improvement request.
Best,
Fabian
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Re: VBR (V13) and Entra backup user license count
Hi Danny
I apologize for the late answer. We have this three options today to list the amount of protected members:
1.) Check on Entra side what will be the subject for our licensing by such ms graph request https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/g ... h-explorer
2.) Use VBR Restore Explorer UI to check enabled members.

3.) Use VRB rest API to filer backed-up enabled members
We have ideas on how to build your request in the future, but no ETA yet.
Best,
Fabian
I apologize for the late answer. We have this three options today to list the amount of protected members:
1.) Check on Entra side what will be the subject for our licensing by such ms graph request https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/g ... h-explorer
Code: Select all
GET «https://graph.microsoft.com/v1.0/users?$filter=userType eq 'Member' and accountEnabled eq true &$select=id,displayName,userPrincipalName,userType,accountEnabled»
3.) Use VRB rest API to filer backed-up enabled members
Code: Select all
Post /api/v1/backupBrowser/entraIdTenant/{backupId}/browse
{
"type": "User",
"filter": {
"usertype": "member", "accountEnabled":"true"
},
"sorting": {
"property": "userName",
"direction": "ascending"
}
}Best,
Fabian
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Re: VBR (V13) and Entra backup user license count
Hi Fabian,
In a MSP / CSP model only option 3 would be viable.
The only issue I have with option 3 that it only works when you have an active restore session open for that specific API endpoint to return anything.
I cross checked this with a support engineer in a lengthy call (07988224). Unfortunately this would exponentially increase the time it would take to get this information via the REST API.
The PowerShell cmdlet seems to not have this requirement of an open restore session.
My feature request here would be to get this information with a direct endpoint common to the already existing logic the VB365 platform uses for license count.
In a MSP / CSP model only option 3 would be viable.
The only issue I have with option 3 that it only works when you have an active restore session open for that specific API endpoint to return anything.
I cross checked this with a support engineer in a lengthy call (07988224). Unfortunately this would exponentially increase the time it would take to get this information via the REST API.
The PowerShell cmdlet seems to not have this requirement of an open restore session.
My feature request here would be to get this information with a direct endpoint common to the already existing logic the VB365 platform uses for license count.
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