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Restore points: No. of *days* worth instead of no. of
Is it possible to set up a number of *days" worth of restore points to keep?
The problem with having the ability to set just an actual number of restore points is that you may have days where you need to make many incremental backups, and this can reduce the number of days you can go back to restore from.
Thanks.
(Note, we use the Hyper-V version).
The problem with having the ability to set just an actual number of restore points is that you may have days where you need to make many incremental backups, and this can reduce the number of days you can go back to restore from.
Thanks.
(Note, we use the Hyper-V version).
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Re: Restore points: No. of *days* worth instead of no. of
Hello Nev, currently it is not possible, as retention policy is "measured" in actual restore points available, not days. Thank you.
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[MERGED] Why is the retention policy not based on time?
Hello,
Something I find strange and (a little frustrating) about B&R is that its retention policy is based on backup instances and not elapsed time. Why is that? Also, is this ever going to change?
I would, personally, much rather define a maximum age for backups than have to calculate the number of instances I expect to generate over that same time period.
Something I find strange and (a little frustrating) about B&R is that its retention policy is based on backup instances and not elapsed time. Why is that? Also, is this ever going to change?
I would, personally, much rather define a maximum age for backups than have to calculate the number of instances I expect to generate over that same time period.
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Re: Restore points: No. of *days* worth instead of no. of
Currently this is by design, but thanks for the feedback! Btw, can you please describe your backup schedule, so we could keep that in mind while enhancing our existing scheduling options.
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Re: Restore points: No. of *days* worth instead of no. of
It might be where we are coming from with our old software, but number of days makes sense to me too. Rarely do the business folks dictate that we need to keep 1,200 restore points. They talk in terms of needing to easily recover data going back 30 days, etc.
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Re: Restore points: No. of *days* worth instead of no. of
Not sure how it could be done, but AppAssure has a system where you can specifiy...
Keep 1 Point Every Day for X Days
then Keep 1 Point Every Weeky for X Weeks
then Keep 1 Point Every Month for X Months
then Keep 1 Point Every Year for X Years.
That sounds awesome to me, but again - not sure how you would go about that due to the way Veeam works. I'd expect it would require some sort of re-processing.
Keep 1 Point Every Day for X Days
then Keep 1 Point Every Weeky for X Weeks
then Keep 1 Point Every Month for X Months
then Keep 1 Point Every Year for X Years.
That sounds awesome to me, but again - not sure how you would go about that due to the way Veeam works. I'd expect it would require some sort of re-processing.
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Re: Restore points: No. of *days* worth instead of no. of
Refer existing threads - requested continually in the past.
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Re: Restore points: No. of *days* worth instead of no. of
+1mongie wrote:Not sure how it could be done, but AppAssure has a system where you can specifiy...
Keep 1 Point Every Day for X Days
then Keep 1 Point Every Weeky for X Weeks
then Keep 1 Point Every Month for X Months
then Keep 1 Point Every Year for X Years.
That sounds awesome to me, but again - not sure how you would go about that due to the way Veeam works. I'd expect it would require some sort of re-processing.
VDR (where we come from) had a similar approach that permits a much more flexible retention policy. You can have weekly, montly and yearly backups without having to store hundreds of restore points or defining several backups jobs for every policy needed (duplicating space requeriments for every aditional job, if I am correct)
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Re: Restore points: No. of *days* worth instead of no. of
...just found the correct thread
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[MERGED] Restore points based on retention time in days?
We have a stated requirement to keep offsite backups on a weekly basis for 6 month (26 weeks).
We have set the retention period to 26 in Veeam.
This works well until we have a need to do an additional back. Major system or data change and need to have pre and post change kept offsite. Now I have 26 restore points but two additional backups on the same day in addition to the weekly I will have 3 backup jobs for that week.
Once it reaches the 26th backup job it will start to lop off the oldest and I am no longer fulfilling my 6 month requirement.
How do you enforce retention time in days?
We have set the retention period to 26 in Veeam.
This works well until we have a need to do an additional back. Major system or data change and need to have pre and post change kept offsite. Now I have 26 restore points but two additional backups on the same day in addition to the weekly I will have 3 backup jobs for that week.
Once it reaches the 26th backup job it will start to lop off the oldest and I am no longer fulfilling my 6 month requirement.
How do you enforce retention time in days?
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Re: Restore points: No. of *days* worth instead of no. of
As a workaround you may want to use additional, separate backup job prior making any changes to your production system. In this case your main backup job will not be affected by having extra restore points.
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Re: Restore points: No. of *days* worth instead of no. of
I would love to see this as well.
I love Veeam, but not being able to set a retention period in number of days was something that really stuck out at me when configuring the product.
I love Veeam, but not being able to set a retention period in number of days was something that really stuck out at me when configuring the product.
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Re: Restore points: No. of *days* worth instead of no. of
V7 copy jobs (with gfs retention) should solve this for you.
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Re: Restore points: No. of *days* worth instead of no. of
But only on the secondary backup, not the primary...
Luca.
Luca.
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Re: Restore points: No. of *days* worth instead of no. of
True - nothing to stop primary and secondary being on the same storage though
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Re: Restore points: No. of *days* worth instead of no. of
I thought about this trick too, but anyway it requires two I/O operations to create a "day-based" retention.
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but only 1 against the VM
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[MERGED] Feature Request: Retention Policies by Date Range
We are using Veeam Backup & Replication 8.0.0.2030.
Currently the retention policy allows you to keep 'x' number of restore points.
I would like to see the retention policy extended so that you could keep the restore points for 'x' number of days. (Perhaps this could be extended further to 'x' number of days/weeks/months/years - whatever).
The reason I ask this is because our company policy dictates that we will keep restore points for 32 days. However, there are scenarios where we do not adhere to our own policies. For example, if we are performing a software update, data migration or significant configuration change then we take additional backups. In fact, we could take a backup before our software update and take another one immediately afterwards. Because we've taken additional backups we no longer have 32 days of restore points as the older restore points have been replaced by the additional backups that we have performed.
Please, please, please you could consider adding such functionality?
By having his functionality it allows for a 'set and forget' philosophy and ensures that we're not breaking our own policies.
Kind regards,
Lee
Currently the retention policy allows you to keep 'x' number of restore points.
I would like to see the retention policy extended so that you could keep the restore points for 'x' number of days. (Perhaps this could be extended further to 'x' number of days/weeks/months/years - whatever).
The reason I ask this is because our company policy dictates that we will keep restore points for 32 days. However, there are scenarios where we do not adhere to our own policies. For example, if we are performing a software update, data migration or significant configuration change then we take additional backups. In fact, we could take a backup before our software update and take another one immediately afterwards. Because we've taken additional backups we no longer have 32 days of restore points as the older restore points have been replaced by the additional backups that we have performed.
Please, please, please you could consider adding such functionality?
By having his functionality it allows for a 'set and forget' philosophy and ensures that we're not breaking our own policies.
Kind regards,
Lee
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Re: Feature Request: Retention Policies by Date Range
You need to give Quick Backup functionality (http://helpcenter.veeam.com/backup/80/v ... ackup.html) a try, it let's you do exactly that - additional backups outside of set retention policy.
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Re: Feature Request: Retention Policies by Date Range
ssimakov,
Many thanks for your reply.
Without sounding stupid, what are the steps I need to perform to initiate a "Quick Backup"?
I cannot find the term "Quick Backup" anywhere within the console itself.
Kind regards,
Lee
Many thanks for your reply.
Without sounding stupid, what are the steps I need to perform to initiate a "Quick Backup"?
I cannot find the term "Quick Backup" anywhere within the console itself.
Kind regards,
Lee
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Re: Restore points: No. of *days* worth instead of no. of
Hi foggy,
That's great thank you. I couldn't for the life of me find it. Thank you.
Lee
That's great thank you. I couldn't for the life of me find it. Thank you.
Lee
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Re: Restore points: No. of *days* worth instead of no. of
Going by the release notes, would I be right in saying that this feature is now available in the latest version?
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Re: Restore points: No. of *days* worth instead of no. of
Hi,
Correct.
Here's the complete list of new features > What's New in v10 (16 pages)
And here's all v10 documentation including the User Guide.
Also, note that GFS Retention Policy is now available for primary backup jobs as well.
Thanks,
Oleg
Correct.
Here's the complete list of new features > What's New in v10 (16 pages)
And here's all v10 documentation including the User Guide.
Also, note that GFS Retention Policy is now available for primary backup jobs as well.
Thanks,
Oleg
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Re: Restore points: No. of *days* worth instead of no. of
Thanks Oleg,
It was 8 years ago that I asked about it ... glad it eventually came
It was 8 years ago that I asked about it ... glad it eventually came
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