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Best way to create a .vbk daily and copy it to tape?

Veeam Logoby conradblack » Tue Jun 09, 2015 3:59 pm 1 person likes this post

Hello,

I have veeam running in production currently, and I'm looking forward to using it to also backup to tape.

One of the requirements I have is that I want to copy a full backup file (.vbk) to tape to be sent off-site daily. I know there are a number of ways to create a .vbk file such as using reverse incremental or forward incremental with synthetic/active fulls.

Are there any other ways that I'm missing to do this? I'm running forward incremental with synthetic fulls on Saturday currently, and I like this setup for disk backups. However, I'm in need of a full backup copied to tape every single day.

Is there a way to use backup to tape jobs to transform my incremental chain into a .vbk without modifying the regular disk backups?

Thank you.
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Re: Best way to create a .vbk daily and copy it to tape?

Veeam Logoby Shestakov » Tue Jun 09, 2015 5:03 pm

Hello,
The best solution for you is to switch the source job to the reversed incremental backup method, thereby your latest restore point is always a full backup and you can just copy it to tape daily.
You can also create Synthetic Fulls daily with rollbacks, but in fact it will be the same as Reversed Increments.
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Re: Best way to create a .vbk daily and copy it to tape?

Veeam Logoby v.Eremin » Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:24 am

Also, if your source job is using forward forever incremental mode, you can let backup to tape job create virtual full backup directly on tapes on everyday basis. All you need to do is to schedule virtual full backup to take place daily. Thanks.
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Re: Best way to create a .vbk daily and copy it to tape?

Veeam Logoby conradblack » Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:40 pm

v.Eremin wrote:Also, if your source job is using forward forever incremental mode, you can let backup to tape job create virtual full backup directly on tapes on everyday basis. All you need to do is to schedule virtual full backup to take place daily. Thanks.



What if my source job is using forward incremental with synthetic fulls once a week? What if I want to run active or synthetic fulls for my jobs that backup to disk? With this model I would only get new full backups to disk when my retention policy expires and a new chain of increments is created, correct?
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Re: Best way to create a .vbk daily and copy it to tape?

Veeam Logoby Shestakov » Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:48 pm

conradblack wrote:What if my source job is using forward incremental with synthetic fulls once a week?

During the week you will have not fulls, but increments on the tape.
conradblack wrote:Also, how do i perform virtual full backups? Is this done on the tape job level?

The virtual full backup is scheduled in the tape job properties and runs independently of the source backup jobs. More info is here.
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Re: Best way to create a .vbk daily and copy it to tape?

Veeam Logoby v.Eremin » Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:00 pm 1 person likes this post

What if my source job is using forward incremental with synthetic fulls once a week?

Disable synthetic full backup, that will automatically switch your job to forward forever incremental mode.

What if I want to run active or synthetic fulls for my jobs that backup to disk?

You can still do it manually or via scheduled PS script. Though, with forward forever incremental mode the need for periodic is not that strong.

Withthis model I would only get new full backups to disk when my retention policy expires and a new chain of increments is created, correct?

Yep, only the oldest point is stored as a full backup.

Also, how do i perform virtual full backups? Is this done on the tape job level?

Correct.

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Re: Best way to create a .vbk daily and copy it to tape?

Veeam Logoby conradblack » Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:10 pm

v.Eremin wrote:
You can still do it manually or via scheduled PS script. Though, with forward forever incremental mode the need for periodic is not that strong.


Cool, that's pretty awesome. So if I run an active full via GUI or scheduled PS script will this active full be independent of my chain of increments? And will it stay on disk until I specify when I want to delete it?

What I'm asking is if this active full is "outside" of my retention policy. What are the mechanics behind a manual active full?

Thank you for all the help :)
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Re: Best way to create a .vbk daily and copy it to tape?

Veeam Logoby v.Eremin » Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:43 pm

What I'm asking is if this active full is "outside" of my retention policy.

No, it's subject to retention policy. Though, it doesn't count as periodic full backup from backup to tape job perspective, so, it still can create virtual full backup directly on tapes.
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Re: Best way to create a .vbk daily and copy it to tape?

Veeam Logoby conradblack » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:38 pm

v.Eremin wrote:
What I'm asking is if this active full is "outside" of my retention policy.

No, it's subject to retention policy. Though, it doesn't count as periodic full backup from backup to tape job perspective, so, it still can create virtual full backup directly on tapes.


Thanks so much, that sounds good.

One more question... will the active full affect the regular chain of increments?

Let's say I have a 14 restore point retention policy. If I run the first full backup on Monday, then increments Monday through Thursday, and then a manual active full on Friday's, what will happen to my previous chain of increments? On the following Monday, will my increments continue the chain that started on the previous Monday from the first full backup, or will the increment chain start anew from the active full I ran on Friday? Also, what will happen to my chain from the previous Monday. I'm assuming it will stay there according to the retention policy. I'm just a little confused on how the active full fits into all this.
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Re: Best way to create a .vbk daily and copy it to tape?

Veeam Logoby Shestakov » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:46 pm 1 person likes this post

You are correct, your previous backup chain (Mon-Thu) will be kept in accordance with the retention policy.
New increments will be written to the new chain of the last full backup(Friday).
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Re: Best way to create a .vbk daily and copy it to tape?

Veeam Logoby conradblack » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:49 pm

Shestakov wrote:You are correct, your previous backup chain (Mon-Thu) will be kept in accordance with the retention policy.
New increments will be written to the new chain of the last full backup(Friday).
Thanks!


Fantastic, you guys have answered every single one of my questions... I appreciate it.

Now we can move forward with our backup plan :)

Thanks a lot!
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Re: Best way to create a .vbk daily and copy it to tape?

Veeam Logoby conradblack » Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:34 pm

Shestakov wrote:You are correct, your previous backup chain (Mon-Thu) will be kept in accordance with the retention policy.
New increments will be written to the new chain of the last full backup(Friday).
Thanks!


Sorry, I have one more question about scheduling the tape job.

If I want a virtual full backup to tape every day, then I understand I schedule it on the media pool settings. Now I'm curious about how I would schedule the actual tape job. If I schedule it to run at say, 10:30 pm, Mon-Thurs, and also schedule a virtual full on these days then all the increments that were created throughout the day will be transformed into a .vbk and copied to tape, correct? As for the active full on Friday, how do I ensure that only the active full is copied?

I wanted to run my jobs multiple times in the day to get multiple disk restore points a day. I plan to run a manual active full, say, at 6 pm, and I know how long the backup window is. Let's say it finishes at 10 pm, if I schedule my tape job to run at 10:30 pm then will only the active full be copied to tape? Do I need to have the "Process incremental backup files" box checked in order to transform the current chain into a vbk for the virtual fulls? If I have this checked, will it affect my active full backup?

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Re: Best way to create a .vbk daily and copy it to tape?

Veeam Logoby v.Eremin » Thu Jun 11, 2015 8:57 am

Schedule your backup to tape job to run on Mon-Thurs, in its settings disable checkbox "process increments" (as you want to have only .vbks on tapes), let virtual full backup be created on the very same days. With virtual full backup, even if there are several full backups present on disks, only one will be copied to tapes. It will be either virtual full backup or just an ordinary full backup, in case when the latest point on disk is full backup. Thanks.
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Re: Best way to create a .vbk daily and copy it to tape?

Veeam Logoby conradblack » Fri Jun 12, 2015 2:38 pm 1 person likes this post

v.Eremin wrote:Schedule your backup to tape job to run on Mon-Thurs, in its settings disable checkbox "process increments" (as you want to have only .vbks on tapes), let virtual full backup be created on the very same days. With virtual full backup, even if there are several full backups present on disks, only one will be copied to tapes. It will be either virtual full backup or just an ordinary full backup, in case when the latest point on disk is full backup. Thanks.


I've tested all this and it works exactly as you described.

I'm very much appreciate the help :) I believe that is all for now... Unless there's something additional that I realize down the road =P
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Re: Best way to create a .vbk daily and copy it to tape?

Veeam Logoby v.Eremin » Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:08 pm

Glad to hear that now the concepts are more clear for you. Should other questions arise, don't hesitate to let us know. Thanks.
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