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Re: Daily full backup to Tape Job Problem

Veeam Logoby Didi7 » Fri May 11, 2018 1:44 pm

We have problems with Virtual Full Backup as well. In one of our VBR-environments, we use an HPE LTO7 single drive (not a library), so that a virtual full backup should be written every work day (MO-FR), but unfortunately sometimes the B2T-job reports the following ...

* No new files to backup per job settings
* 5/11/2018 12:15:28 AM :: Synthesized full backup was not created for 5/11/2018: there are no new restore points between 5/11/2018 and 5/11/2018

I don't know, why the B2T-job doesn't compare between 5/10/2018 and 05/11/2018 in this case, as this jobs runs once per day right after the B2D-job, which creates new restore points every day and therefore new restore points for a virtual full backup should be available, but something is fishy with the B2T virtual full backup mechanism.

We have a daily B2D-job (forever forward incremental with 30 restore points) which starts at 11:00pm (MO-FR), 15 VMs are included and 15 new VIB-files are created every day and the oldest VIB is merged into the VBK file.

The B2T-job has the corresponding repository used in the B2D job selected, a full backup (virtual full backup) selected and a deselected 'Archive incremental backups to tape' and runs after the aforementioned B2D-job, which creates 15 new VIB-files from 15 VMs every day (MO-FR), but sometimes or let's say every 2 or 3 days the B2T-job reports the upper mentioned errors and the job is quit with a status => Success: 1 and tape is also not ejected, though it's selected in the options of the B2T-job to eject media upon job completion, whether it makes sense or not in this situation, but tape media is changed everyday here.

Any idea what's wrong with the virtual full backup, reporting 'there are no new restore points between 5/11/2018 and 5/11/2018' instead of 5/10/2017 and 5/11/2018 ?

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Re: Daily full backup to Tape Job Problem

Veeam Logoby Didi7 » Tue May 15, 2018 11:44 am

Any ideas?

Is a HotFix necessary to fix the issues with Virtual Full Backup? We use VBR 9.5 Update 3.

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Re: Daily full backup to Tape Job Problem

Veeam Logoby Didi7 » Thu May 17, 2018 5:39 pm

Hello

let me try to clarify my problem with 'virtual full backup' again ...

First of all, we have a B2D-job (forever forward incremental) with 15 VMs, one of the VMs is a Windows Domain Controller, so every week day (MO-FR) incremental data is written to the B2D-repository, usually a few GB's of data in the range of 50-100GB per day, so in fact, there is changed data every week day (MO-FR).

The B2T-job runs after the B2D-job (MO-FR), selected is the B2D-repository used for the 15 VMs from the B2D-job, virtual full backup is selected, incremental backup is not selected, process latest full backup chain is selected in Advanced Settings under Options in the B2T-job.

Last night, the following log entries can be seen in the History of the B2T-job:

5/17/2018 12:52:38 AM :: Building source backup files list started at 5/17/2018 12:52:38 AM
5/17/2018 12:52:39 AM :: No restore point for 5/17/2018 is available for virtual full backup, using previous restore point for 5/16/2018
5/17/2018 12:52:40 AM :: 15 synthetic full backups will be placed into the media set
5/17/2018 12:52:41 AM :: Source backup files detected. VBK: 0, VBK map: 15, VIB: 0

Everything went fine and around 3,4TB of data was written to the LTO7 tape media!

A day before, the following log entries can be seen in the History of the B2T-job:

5/16/2018 12:54:53 AM :: Building source backup files list started at 5/16/2018 12:54:53 AM
5/16/2018 12:54:53 AM :: Synthesized full backup was not created for 5/16/2018: there are no new restore points between 5/16/2018 and 5/16/2018
5/16/2018 12:54:54 AM :: Source backup files detected. VBK: 0, VBK map: 0, VIB: 0

This happens randomly (MO-FR). Sometimes it works, sometimes not.

Something is fishy here.

Is this faulty behaviour already known? Is a fix available?

Veeam B&R 9.5 U3 is used in this environment.

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Re: Daily full backup to Tape Job Problem

Veeam Logoby PTide » Thu May 17, 2018 5:49 pm

Didi7,

I apologize for missing your posts.

Is there any chance that the B2D job was performing backup chain transformation when the tape job was running?

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Re: Daily full backup to Tape Job Problem

Veeam Logoby Didi7 » Thu May 17, 2018 6:20 pm

Hello PTide,

what do you mean by backup chain transformation? This happens during night hours, so that's hard to say for me atm. If you mean the injection of the last *.vib into the *.vbk of each VM, this happens at the end of B2D-job and is reported in the log ...

5/16/2018 11:23:40 PM :: Full backup file merge completed successfully
5/17/2018 12:52:10 AM :: Load: Source 97% > Proxy 25% > Network 11% > Target 0%
5/17/2018 12:52:10 AM :: Primary bottleneck: Source
5/17/2018 12:52:10 AM :: Job finished at 5/17/2018 12:52:10 AM

The B2T-job starts right after the B2D-job at ...
5/17/2018 12:52:35 AM :: Job started at 5/17/2018 12:52:33 AM

A day before, the following can be seen in the History log ...

5/15/2018 11:25:55 PM :: Full backup file merge completed successfully
5/16/2018 12:54:32 AM :: Load: Source 97% > Proxy 21% > Network 10% > Target 0%
5/16/2018 12:54:32 AM :: Primary bottleneck: Source
5/16/2018 12:54:32 AM :: Job finished at 5/16/2018 12:54:32 AM

The B2T-job starts right after the B2D-job at ...
5/16/2018 12:54:50 AM :: Job started at 5/16/2018 12:54:47 AM
5/16/2018 12:54:50 AM :: Processing tasks
5/16/2018 12:54:54 AM :: No new files to backup per job settings
5/16/2018 12:54:54 AM :: Job finished at 5/16/2018 12:54:54 AM

Btw, did you notice that a B2T-Job that runs right after the B2D-job (via Schedule 'After this job'), reports the B2D-jobname under BACKUP column instead the B2T-jobname, the ACTION column corresponds to the B2T-job, strange.

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