Feature request: Schedule "files to tape" after other job

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Feature request: Schedule "files to tape" after other job

Veeam Logoby hawkeye80 » Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:17 am

Hi Veeam team,

I would like to the the "after job" scheduling mechanism who is available at "Backup to Tape" jobs also be available on "File to Tape Backup" jobs.

After writing out the full backups on saturday morning I would like additionally write some files (for example physical Veeam server Windows backup folder).
It would be nice to just set this job to after instead of calculating a schedule time when the backup to tape should be finished.

Additionally I would like to give +1 on a tape verification option to compare the tape data with the repository afterwards. This is in my mind a must have for tape backups to find faulty tapes and drives.

Kind regards,
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Re: Feature request: Schedule "files to tape" after other jo

Veeam Logoby Shestakov » Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:09 am

Hello Daniel,
Thank you for the feedback and the use case explanation. We will take it into account.
For now your goal can be reached by use of a script.
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Re: Feature request: Schedule "files to tape" after other jo

Veeam Logoby hawkeye80 » Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:47 am

Hello Nikita,
you're absolutely right. I just have to internalize that I now have a great backup solution with a great Powershell implementation. :-)
Going to remove the schedule on the files to tape job and do a post-script on the last backup to tape via
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Get-VBRTapeJob -Name "JOBNAME" | Start-VBRJob -RunAsync


Thank you!
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Re: Feature request: Schedule "files to tape" after other jo

Veeam Logoby Shestakov » Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:49 am

Correct, but adding the option in UI might be a good idea as well, so thanks again for the feedback!
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[MERGED] : Feature Request VBR

Veeam Logoby Didi7 » Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:59 pm

I am asking again, if you can make it possible to include a setting to start a 'File to tape Job' at the end of a finished disk or tape job. I would like to be in a position to start tape Jobs, als soon as disk Jobs are finished. Within disk Jobs this setting is available. It would be nice to have this Setting in 'File to tape Jobs' as well.

It is a very nice Feature Setting in Disk Jobs. Why not offer this Setting in Tage Jobs as well?

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Re: Feature request: Schedule "files to tape" after other jo

Veeam Logoby v.Eremin » Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:31 am

Unfortunately, it is not possible via GUI at the moment. Though, it can be achieved with the use of the script provided above. Thanks.
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Re: Feature request: Schedule "files to tape" after other jo

Veeam Logoby Erikn » Mon Feb 29, 2016 1:45 pm

Yes please! Tape jobs take too long and interfere with backups too much. I would love to be able to automatically kick off "file to tape" job after other jobs.
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Re: Feature request: Schedule "files to tape" after other jo

Veeam Logoby v.Eremin » Mon Feb 29, 2016 3:44 pm

Thanks for the feedback; appreciated.

For now feel free to give the said script a shot. Set it as a post-job activity and you're good to go.
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Re: Feature request: Schedule "files to tape" after other jo

Veeam Logoby rreed » Tue Mar 01, 2016 4:20 pm

+1 for adding this feature to the GUI please, was just this morning wishing this was there.
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Re: Feature request: Schedule "files to tape" after other jo

Veeam Logoby Dja » Wed Mar 02, 2016 1:26 am

+2.... tape such a weakness with this product that is good in other areas. Just posted something similar to this.
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Re: Feature request: Schedule "files to tape" after other jo

Veeam Logoby Didi7 » Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:45 pm

Will the scheduler in 'File to Tape Backup' Jobs include the feature to start the job after a disk Job in the next update to Version 9.0.0.1491 ?

In my opinion 'File to Tape Backup' Jobs are more flexible and you can include customized data, than just the *.vbk or *.vib files. To guess, when diskjobs might be finished can be troublesome. Is it really such a big effort to offer the schedule mechanism to start 'File to Tape Backup' Jobs after a finished Disk Job, when it's already available in 'Backup to Tape' Jobs?

Who else wishes to have the feature included asap?

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Re: Feature request: Schedule "files to tape" after other jo

Veeam Logoby Shestakov » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:05 pm

Didi7 wrote:Will the scheduler in 'File to Tape Backup' Jobs include the feature to start the job after a disk Job in the next update to Version 9.0.0.1491?

Not sure the feature is going to be included in the next minor update.
Didi7 wrote:In my opinion 'File to Tape Backup' Jobs are more flexible and you can include customized data, than just the *.vbk or *.vib files. To guess, when diskjobs might be finished can be troublesome. Is it really such a big effort to offer the schedule mechanism to start 'File to Tape Backup' Jobs after a finished Disk Job, when it's already available in 'Backup to Tape' Jobs?
Who else wishes to have the feature included asap?

Could you specify the request, please? Currently file to tape jobs work with backup and non-backup files.
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Re: Feature request: Schedule "files to tape" after other jo

Veeam Logoby Didi7 » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:32 pm

Hello Shestakov,

I am only referring to the Scheduler of 'Files to Tape Jobs' under 'Full Backup' ...

https://helpcenter.veeam.com/backup/vsphere/files_to_tape_pool.html

and under 'Incremental Backup' ...

https://helpcenter.veeam.com/backup/vsphere/files_to_tape_pool_increments.html

Here you cannot specify to let the 'Files to Tape Job' run after a diskjob is finished, as you can do in a 'Backup to Tape Job' here ...

https://helpcenter.veeam.com/backup/vsphere/backup_to_tape_simple_schedule.html

I really miss the scheduler option 'After this job' in 'File to Tape Jobs and as you can see here, a lot others as well. Is the effort to offer the schedule option 'After this job' in 'File to Tape Jobs' such a big change in the software?

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Re: Feature request: Schedule "files to tape" after other jo

Veeam Logoby Dima P. » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:48 pm

Hi Didi7,

Deeper integration with source jobs, including additional scheduling options, is indeed provided in backup to tape jobs. Can you share any advantages of using file to tape jobs instead of backup to tape job, especially when it comes to files produces by VBR jobs? Thanks.
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Re: Feature request: Schedule "files to tape" after other jo

Veeam Logoby Didi7 » Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:42 am 1 person likes this post

Dima P. wrote:Deeper integration with source jobs, including additional scheduling options, is indeed provided in backup to tape jobs


Unfortunately!

Dima P. wrote:Can you share any advantages of using file to tape jobs instead of backup to tape job, especially when it comes to files produces by VBR jobs? Thanks.


Well, it's really simple. File to Tape Jobs are far more flexible. Instead of just saving *.vbk or *.vib diskjob files to tape, you can specify what kind of directories from your Veeam Backup & Replication server should be saved to tape as well, like for e.g. configuration directories, tape catalog info text files from a complex backup environment with tape libraries, parts of other Veeam Backup & Replication directories and many more files or directories, which one could consider as very important, especially when it comes down to completely re-install a broken Veeam Backup & Replication hardware.

Of course, if you completely manually re-install a physical Veeam Backup & Replication hardware, all you need to have to restore any kind of VM is the *.vbk and *.vib files, but it's helpful to have some more files from parts of your Veeam Backup & Replication environment in your backup tapes.

I personally tend to save the barcode label name of a weekly, monthly or yearly tape in a text file, because I have a complex robotic environment and should the complete Veeam Backup & Replication hardware explode and I need to re-install that system, I would like to know, what kind of tape was used in which week, month or year-end and that info is seperately saved in a text file, which I would like to save on tape as well and that's only possible with File to Tape Jobs, because there you can specify to backup more than just the *.vbk and *.vib files.

Similar reasons should be the case with other users here, which prefer to use 'File to Tape Jobs' over 'Backup to Tape Jobs', because the plain *.vbk and *.vib files aren't enough in their scenarios.

In fact, I personally don't see any advantage to use 'Backup to Tape Jobs' instead of 'File to Tape Jobs', because the latter is more flexible and offers more options to decide, what really should be placed on a tape.

And as I and others (so I did understand) don't want to guess, when disk jobs are finished, we would like to have the option to start 'File to Tape Jobs' as soon as a disk job is finished. This is only possible with the option 'After this job' in the scheduler.

So please, the feature request is more than 1 year old already and I would really like to see this feature included very soon. Other backup software offer options, like ...

Backup to Disk to Tape

... in one job. This would be another option, but Veeam Backup & Replication strictly seperates Disk and Tape jobs.

The scheduler option 'After this job' is really a nice feature in VBR, but it's missing in 'File to Tape Jobs' and it should be there as well.

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