Please add support for snap packages.

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Please add support for snap packages.

Veeam Logoby the_mentor » Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:49 pm

Hi Veeam Developers,
Please package the veeam agent for linux in the universal snap package format to make it easier to install and update.
This will also allow for more distributions to download veeam agent for linux.

thank you !
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Re: Please add support for snap packages.

Veeam Logoby vmniels » Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:35 am

We'll look into it. May I ask for which distros you are already using snap?
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Re: Please add support for snap packages.

Veeam Logoby the_mentor » Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:53 pm

Ubuntu/Ubuntu Core and a few other distros that support snap packages for example solus.
snap packages will allow for easier deployment and updates.

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Re: Please add support for snap packages.

Veeam Logoby the_mentor » Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:03 am

vmniels wrote:We'll look into it. May I ask for which distros you are already using snap?


Here you can find an updated list of distributions and more information on snaps:
https://snapcraft.io/

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Re: Please add support for snap packages.

Veeam Logoby vmniels » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:55 pm

Thanks for the link. Could you let us know which ones you are actually using (or is it still limited to Ubuntu & Ubuntu Core in your environment)?
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Re: Please add support for snap packages.

Veeam Logoby the_mentor » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:52 pm

I am currently using a few of them but my mine distribution is Solus.
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Re: Please add support for snap packages.

Veeam Logoby PTide » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:21 am

Hi,

Although your feature request has been noted, it is unlikely that VAL will support snap packages for distros other than major (Ubuntu, Debian, CentOS etc.) soon.

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Re: Please add support for snap packages.

Veeam Logoby drohm » Wed May 02, 2018 3:34 pm

@PTide what difference does it make what OS he's using? A snap package is a snap package, regardless of the OS he's using. Thats kind of the point of snaps (or flatpaks even). They're universal and will run on any OS that supports it.

For the record, I'm using Solus and would *really* like to see Veeam add support for snaps.
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Re: Please add support for snap packages.

Veeam Logoby vmniels » Thu May 03, 2018 8:40 am

We ask OS information for extra statistics to get a better idea on what is being used in combination with VAL.
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Re: Please add support for snap packages.

Veeam Logoby PTide » Fri May 04, 2018 3:32 pm

Hi,
They're universal and will run on any OS that supports it.

That does not sound very universal, to be honest :)

Also I have a question - how is installing snap package much easier than using apt-get install veeam? What are the benefits of using snappy for you?

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Re: Please add support for snap packages.

Veeam Logoby drohm » Sat May 05, 2018 4:18 pm

vmniels wrote:We ask OS information for extra statistics to get a better idea on what is being used in combination with VAL.


Yep, and thats perfectly valid. My comment was in regards to how PTide phrased his statement, which makes it sound that snaps only work on some linux distributions, which to my knowledge, is not the case.
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Re: Please add support for snap packages.

Veeam Logoby drohm » Sat May 05, 2018 4:24 pm

PTide wrote:That does not sound very universal, to be honest :)


You're missing the entire point of snaps or flatpaks.
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Re: Please add support for snap packages.

Veeam Logoby PTide » Mon May 07, 2018 5:15 pm

I dare to think that I understand the main (but not the only) purpose of snaps - to pack everything an application might need and deliver the application as a single piece, thus avoiding cross-compatibility problems and problem of system libraries updates. Everything is controlled by snapd which is claimed to be available on a vast majority of distros. Yes, we could create .snap for one of the two packages that constitute VAL, but the second packages contains the kernel module which is required for VAL to work. As far as I know, currently it is quite problematic to carry out such operations using .snap packages. That is, you will still have to install the module via conventional means (rpm/deb packages). Although I admit that snaps can simplify things, currently it is not much use of it for VAL, unless they (snapcraft) have already developed the way to install kernel modules. Again, please tell us what are the benefits for you? Current installation process via deb/rpm packages is not complicated, or is it?

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Re: Please add support for snap packages.

Veeam Logoby drohm » Tue May 08, 2018 4:02 pm

@PTide - I'm running Solus, which debs or rpms do not work. The benefit would be that I can run VAL on Solus, thats the end goal :) I like the product...a lot. Again, my request for snap (or flatpak) support isn't just for having an alternative method of installation, it's so that I can actually run it.

I suppose, an alternative to this, would be to build this natively as a solus package. Would that be a possibility? https://solus-project.com/articles/packaging/

Going that route would get around the kernel module problems with snaps.
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Re: Please add support for snap packages.

Veeam Logoby PTide » Wed May 09, 2018 4:16 pm

I'm running Solus, which debs or rpms do not work.

Well, that's a bummer, indeed. We'll take that into consideration. Meanwhile, may I ask you how you use that distro? I mean, is it for gaming, coding, or some other application?

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