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Quick backup does not create a full

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Background:
  • BNR agent backup job with selection list based on protection group membership
  • One endpoint gives error message "Unable to create a restore point: some backup files backing previous restore points are offloaded, please run an active full backup"
  • So need to run a full backup but undesirable to run for all endpoints
Steps:
  1. Edited the agent backup job in BNR
  2. Configured a Wednesday full backup (left Friday also as full backup)
  3. Inventory > Physical Infrastructure > protection group in question > Right-click endpoint in question > Quick Backup
  4. Checked on status and confirmed it tried an incremental instead of full
Quick backup for VM assets does not do this. If the full backup is configured for that day, then a quick backup is a full backup, not an incremental.

How should I go about running a full backup for a single endpoint in the job mapped to the protection group? If I simply right-click the job > Active Backup, then it will run an full backup for ALL endpoints, not just the one in question.
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Re: Quick backup does not create a full

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Hi James

Yes, you are correct.
Quick Backup only creates incremental backups. It ignores scheduled full backups.
For V12 we have planned an option that allows you to create an active full backup for individual computers in a job to solve this use case.

The safest way today is to create a new backup job for just this machine.
For V10/V11 I have heard about a workaround with excluding all other machines, run a active full and then add the other machines back to the job. I never tested this in my lab. I recommend you do a test run if you want to try it.

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Thanks, Fabian. Unfortunately creating a new backup job would result in a new chain, let alone deviate from our principle of 1:many job to asset design principle. I have used the exclusion method before, but it appears not to be available for this situation, though why I am not certain. It may be due to the fact I have the membership in the PG based on AD security group. Maybe exclusion is no longer an option. I do not wish to actually remove the assets from the AD SG because that would result in the agent being uninstalled on a PG rescan, to my knowledge. Looks like I may just have to wait for tonight's full backup to run. Then I can reconfigure the job for Friday full backup only.
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Re: Quick backup does not create a full

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Hi James

You are right, the exclusion button is not available for Agent backup jobs.

I run a test in my lab.
1. Created an OU with 2 machines (M1+M2) in it
2. Created an OU based PG with the new OU
3. Created a Backup Job with the PG a source
4. Run the first backup for the Job --> Full Backup for M1 + M2
5. Removed the PG as the source and added only machine M1 as the source
6. Run an active full of the Job --> Active Full Backup for M1
7. Removed machine M1 from the job and added back the PG as a source
8. Run the Job again --> Incremental Backup for M1 + M2

That could be an option instead of excluding, if you face the same issue again until V12.

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Re: Quick backup does not create a full

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Ah, thank you! I can see how that would work.
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Re: Quick backup does not create a full

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Hey Fabian, when I tried this just now, I got at step 6:

8/25/2022 9:45:26 AM :: Waiting for rescan job Rescan of [redacted]-LBS-AzureAssets-[redacted]-Daily to complete
8/25/2022 9:46:31 AM :: Unable to process [redacted]: host rescan is required
8/25/2022 9:46:31 AM :: Nothing to process

I then rescanned the asset from the protection group to satisfy "host rescan is required." Then I tried step 6 again but got the same message.
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Re: Quick backup does not create a full

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I didn't got this message.
Are you using Managed By Agent Backup Jobs? I used a managed by Backup Server Job.

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Re: Quick backup does not create a full

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No, same as you--managed by backup server. These are server endpoints, so I always go with that option. (wish it was an option for workstation endpoints too, but I digress!)
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Re: Quick backup does not create a full

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I tried adding the individual asset to the job via Protection group > expanding the PG and selecting only the one member. Now the active full backup is working! Good to know.
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Re: Quick backup does not create a full

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Yes, I added the single machine the same way:

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