great thankyou at last I got the data back. Note : I had to make a Win7 VM, then install the version you linked me to the W7 VM, (still couldnt restore, gave errors)so I then built a recovery ISO, then booted the VM with the recovery ISO and was able to restore the data from a network location to a local virtual HDD on the VM. what a nightmare - I assume the full version now wont make people jump through such hoops to restore data. Then I had to copy the data back from the VM to my new W10 PC.
much appreciate your help I would be nowhere without it