Feature Request: VMware Tagging - JOIN statements

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Feature Request: VMware Tagging - JOIN statements

Veeam Logoby ekisner » Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:42 pm 2 people like this post

I would like the ability to more flexibly create dynamic jobs.

Consider a scenario where one has 2 different tag categories: RPO (tags: 4h, 24h) and Encryption (tags: true, false). One could simply create a single category with all 4 combinations, but then if you wanted all 4h RPO VMs, you must search for 4h RPO & encryption TRUE as well as 4h RPO & encryption FALSE. It complicates things in the future by restricting the flexible nature of tagging.

One could easily add more categories, such as "App-Aware", "Compression Level", really imagination is the limit (okay so the hard limit is probably specific to the number of job setting permutations, but that's pretty high).

Theoretically, with those 2 categories, one must create 4 jobs. One must manually exclude VMs that do not belong in a specific job, for example if you're targeting your jobs based on the RPO, you must manually exclude the VMs which requre or do not require encryption, one for each of your 4h RPO jobs.

Consider, however, the ease of using something like an inner join. All VMs which are a member of group 1 and group 2 (...and 3, and 4.... so on and so on). Or a left join: All VMs which are a member of group 1 but not group 2. You still have the same number of jobs, but now nothing is manual. As soon as you update the tag, the job accurately reflects the change as well.
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Re: Feature Request: VMware Tagging - JOIN statements

Veeam Logoby Gostev » Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:13 pm

Thanks for your feedback, we will consider this for the future releases.
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Re: Feature Request: VMware Tagging - JOIN statements

Veeam Logoby soggy » Tue Jan 12, 2016 1:01 am

Just chiming in this would be an immensely useful feature. As I require to have multiple tags for various things such as retention,encryption,offsiting,etc
In the meantime I'll have to write something in powershell and run it as a scheduled task to update objects across the backup jobs.
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[MERGED] Feature Request: Logical Operators with VMware Tags

Veeam Logoby mj71 » Fri Sep 09, 2016 1:36 pm 1 person likes this post

I ran across the Veeam whitepaper Using Veeam and VMware vSphere Tags for Advanced Policy-driven Data Protection and thought it would be a nice way to streamline our jobs. The paper discusses creating tags for VM Purpose, RPO and Encryption. I implemented these tags in VMware and tagged all of our VMs accordingly. I was disappointed to find that there is no way to combine tags when selecting VMs to backup. Only a single flag is evaluated.

I'd like to be able to create a backup job that selects VMs that are, for example, Windows VM AND RPO-Daily AND No encryption.

Thanks!
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Re: Feature Request: VMware Tagging - JOIN statements

Veeam Logoby Vitaliy S. » Fri Sep 09, 2016 2:32 pm 1 person likes this post

Thanks for the post, your FR is noted.
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Re: [MERGED] Feature Request: Logical Operators with VMware

Veeam Logoby cjack03 » Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:52 am 1 person likes this post

mj71 wrote:I ran across the Veeam whitepaper Using Veeam and VMware vSphere Tags for Advanced Policy-driven Data Protection and thought it would be a nice way to streamline our jobs. The paper discusses creating tags for VM Purpose, RPO and Encryption. I implemented these tags in VMware and tagged all of our VMs accordingly. I was disappointed to find that there is no way to combine tags when selecting VMs to backup. Only a single flag is evaluated.

I'd like to be able to create a backup job that selects VMs that are, for example, Windows VM AND RPO-Daily AND No encryption.

Thanks!


Hi!

We do that already, below is an example of what we do, not the most elegant solution but it works for us:

WHEN Tag("OSGroup") = "Windows Servers" AND Tag("AppQuiescence") = "AppAwareYES" AND Tag("BackupRPO") = "BRPO24" THEN "24H AppAware Windows Servers"
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Re: Feature Request: VMware Tagging - JOIN statements

Veeam Logoby Fred_vBrain » Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:12 pm 1 person likes this post

Hi all,

this thread is little bit old but I would like to +1 this feature request. Currently one of my TAM customers had also challenges for their backups because they are running local site SAN VMs and Remote mirrored VMs in the same cluster. Some of these VMs geht backuped with Hot-Add and some only with NBD because there is only one proxy per cluster. Either the proxy is running on site A which sees only local storage A then site B VM on site B storage can only be backuped with NBD. If I could combine multiple tags I could create 2 Proxies and could bind the backup jobs to these tags. At the moment only one tag is possible and I would need to create a script similar to that what cjack03 did in his previous post.

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Re: Feature Request: VMware Tagging - JOIN statements

Veeam Logoby smichel » Mon Sep 04, 2017 10:13 am

Hello,

+1 for me too.
The multi tag with AND / OR conditions will be really a good new feature.

Thanks a lot

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Re: Feature Request: VMware Tagging - JOIN statements

Veeam Logoby kev_147 » Wed May 23, 2018 11:29 pm

Just wanted to revive this thread as this will reduce so much admin overhead if you could define an AND when defining the scope of Veeam Jobs
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Re: Feature Request: VMware Tagging - JOIN statements

Veeam Logoby Gostev » Thu May 24, 2018 12:24 am 1 person likes this post

This feature is high on our priority list by now.
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