Standard Edition. Per-VM backup file chains.

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Standard Edition. Per-VM backup file chains.

Veeam Logoby smarechal » Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:52 pm

Hello,

Per-vm backup file didn't work with standard licence? I can set it in repository option ...

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12/01/2016 13:51:15 :: Error: Unable to use per-VM backup file chains due to a product license limitation.


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Re: Standard Edition. Per-VM backup file chains.

Veeam Logoby Gostev » Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:56 pm

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Re: Standard Edition. Per-VM backup file chains.

Veeam Logoby smarechal » Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:59 pm

It is a real pity, i had it in standard with vRanger ... :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Re: Standard Edition. Per-VM backup file chains.

Veeam Logoby Gostev » Tue Jan 12, 2016 2:19 pm

To be fair, from what I remember, this was the only way vRanger could store backups anyway ;)

For Veeam, the standard way has always been a single backup file for the entire job. This still remains the recommended way to go for those smaller environments using Standard Edition. Per-VM backup chains are recommended for large environments using deduplicating storage appliances or scale-out backup repositories as the backup target (support for which are Enterprise Edition features as well).
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Re: Standard Edition. Per-VM backup file chains.

Veeam Logoby smarechal » Tue Jan 12, 2016 2:22 pm

Gostev wrote:To be fair, from what I remember, this was the only way vRanger could store backups anyway ;)

I agree, and vRanger has not, in standard, built-in AD, Exchange and SQL Explorer.
But to restore VM from tape, it's shorter to pick one VM file instead of entire backup file ;)
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Re: Standard Edition. Per-VM backup file chains.

Veeam Logoby wnichols » Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:28 pm

Would this per-VM backup chain be helpful with Windows Server 2012 R2 deduplication engine? Our incrementals on some jobs can be 100GB+ with 15+ virtual machines.
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Re: Standard Edition. Per-VM backup file chains.

Veeam Logoby vmniels » Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:00 pm

This is one of the reasons it has been designed. Keep in mind Windows 2012 R2 dedupe is best advised on files < 1TB. We have a long thread about it.
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Re: Standard Edition. Per-VM backup file chains.

Veeam Logoby vanakenarch » Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:12 am

It was definitely available before the latest update of v9.0.0.1491, because I set it before this update and it worked. Now I had failing backupjobs (after installing the update) and if I change the repository setting (to set OFF per-VM) it's stated you need enterprise licensing to use per-VM.
To bad, maybe I need to upgrade then :) because I need smaller files to recover faster from tape.
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Re: Standard Edition. Per-VM backup file chains.

Veeam Logoby Zew » Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:39 am

um having this issue right now. I had it checked off as I thought it was for when you had multiple VMs in a bckup job that each vm is saved as its own VBK file.

i set the setting in the repo off, re-ran the job and fails with the same error.

how do i get my backup job to work now?
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Re: Standard Edition. Per-VM backup file chains.

Veeam Logoby Gostev » Sat Mar 11, 2017 1:06 pm

Strange. Try to re-create the job perhaps? Alternatively, you can contact our support for investigation - it should be possible to fix without recreating the job.
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Re: Standard Edition. Per-VM backup file chains.

Veeam Logoby Zew » Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:37 pm

Thanks for the reply Gostev, ill contact support i dont want to rebuild all my jobs, and this was thanks to a dirty trick i over looked in the wording of when i bought Veeam support renewal is 20% MRSP, i got a really sweet deal when i first purchased veeam and when i got the renew quote at the same cost i paid for the product i was shocked.

i then downgraded to standard as the only features i really liked and wanted where in enterprise plus which just costs too much for small business. and here we are briken backups. yay!
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Re: Standard Edition. Per-VM backup file chains.

Veeam Logoby haslund » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:02 am 1 person likes this post

smarechal wrote:But to restore VM from tape, it's shorter to pick one VM file instead of entire backup file ;)

You don't need per-VM backup files to restore a single VM instead of entire backup file since v9.5, see https://helpcenter.veeam.com/docs/backup/vsphere/tape_restoring_vm_from_tape.html?ver=95
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Re: Standard Edition. Per-VM backup file chains.

Veeam Logoby Zew » Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:45 pm

My case had nothing to do with tape. more the fact i enabled a setting on my repo that would theoretically allow me to grab VM backup files and move them manually as required Per VM while still having smaller amount of actual back jobs, when i had enterprise and then decided to downgrade not realizing this would happen.

i contacted support and the easiest solution was to run active fulls to start a new chain. given there isn't storage contention it should be fine even with BCJ set on each particular job.

Would be nice if this stayed a standard feature, dont get the selling point. :S
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