Veeam Data Cloud and vault

[dhayes16]

Hello. Just a quick question. We have several customers with veeam backup for 365 as well as veeam b&r and both services send data to wasabi which has been fine. However we would like to offer cloud based restoration options if needed for DR, etc.

How would a vcsp get started with veeam data cloud and vault? Would we use our own azure instance? Is storage pooled amongst all clients? Are there rental options?

I am sure this is all documented somewhere and I will dig around. But the part that is a little confusing to us is if we need our own azure instance.

Thanks very much
Dave

[micoolpaul]

Hi Dave,

You can register via the propartner portal and then consume it on a point based model like you would now.

VDC is a multi-tenated platform hosted within Veeam’s own Azure tenant so you won’t have anything to host. Storage would be per customer too.

Any further questions just let us know

[dhayes16]

Thanks very much...We setup a small test customer in VDC and it was super easy to configure and setup. We are going to start getting other customers up as well. I do have the following questions if you do not mind.
#1) We have most VBO365 users backing up to either a local jet database or wasabi. Are there any options to migrate the data to VDC? If not is it possible to keep VBO365 running for these customers to access older data if they need to? Obviously we would prefer to migrate old data to VDC.
#2) We have several Azure VM's running in the customer tenants. We have a local VBR server with a veeam appliance in the cloud. And the Azure VM's backup to Azure blob storage in the customer tenant. Obviously this is not ideal regarding security, etc. So how would we handle these VM's? Would it be via VDC for Azure OR would we be adding a Veeam Vault to VBT and configuring VBR to send backup copy jobs to the vault? I apologize but I am not sure if "Azure" discussed in the context of VDC is for VM backups or just the Veeam PAAS type workloads.
#3) Regarding #3 above..Would it be better to setup a veeam vault (Advanced) to be the primary target to backup the Azure VM's as opposed to a backup copy job? And basically get rid of the blob storage target in the customer tenant.

Thanks for any info...Very much appreciated.
Dave

[micoolpaul]

Hi Dave,

1. Migration for block/S3 compatible is not supported at this time, this is a request that is being tracked though. Typically customers can use the VB365 community edition for free to restore historical data but I understand the EULA prohibits 3rd parties from offering services on this. It may be entirely possible that a VCSP license not consuming any active licenses would satisfy this request but I’m not as familiar with the VCSP licensing specifics as it’s been a while since I was a service provider, I recommend speaking to your Veeam reps to get more information.
2. VDC Azure can protect those VMs directly. Otherwise if you’re backing up initially to a VBR repository and then wish to do a backup copy to Vault that is supported IIRC. Have a read of https://helpcenter.veeam.com/docs/vdc/u ... ation.html for more details.
3. It would make sense for the isolation element definitely, though it’s certainly still worth considering the 3-2-1 backup strategy to be sure you’re adhering to best practice

[dhayes16]

Thank you for the very detailed response. One thing that we would like to leverage is surebackup for the azure vms. If we wanted to accomplish sure backup is one way better than the other (backup copy job to vault vs vdc azure directly)? Does azure vdc for azure support surebackup? Or do we need to get our own compute for this type of solution?

Again thanks

[micoolpaul]

Hi!

VDC Azure does not support surebackup at this time so you’d be best using VBR for the backups to vault and then using surebackup that way. You need to bring your own compute for this (Azure subscription)

[dhayes16]

Thanks very much. I suspect I would then need to go with vault "advanced" because I believe surebackup jobs will likely break the fair use policy.

Thanks very much for all your input. We have work to do

[micoolpaul]

Yes that’s the intent if you want to use it for SureBackup then you’d need to check your compliance with the fair usage with foundation, advanced has no restrictions. See this for more details: https://www.veeam.com/veeam_data_cloud_ ... son_ds.pdf & https://helpcenter.veeam.com/docs/vdc/u ... tions.html

[dhayes16]

Thanks very much. That being said, we will probably not really be able to use sure backup to validate these virtual machines. I believe that would involve pulling those VM backups through a VPN tunnel to an on-prem hyper-v server to be able to run the sure backup lab on prem. I suspect that would incur significant egress fees. It would be great if veeam supported that functionality in the future. We will likely need to build an isolated test environment in Azure and use veeam to restore into that test environment and perform manual testing and possibly layer in orchestrator.
I suppose we'll need to think about that.