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Backup and restore VMs with duplicate names

Post by l.vinokur » Jul 22, 2018 7:23 am

Dear community and developers,

Issue:
For some business logic reasons, we have numerous VMs with duplicate names in the vCenter inventory. There is no problem performing a backup, but recently I had to perform a restore and quite surprisingly, there is no support for restore selection based on anything than a flat VM name ( I am talking about restoring from backup here, not infrastructure). No source folder, source VM tag, nothing.
Now if I had a single VM, I could work something out, but I have ~50 of them. I opened a case with support and long story short, got an answer that there is no way to achieve what I wanted.
Even playing with powershell interface did not produce any results.

Workaround:
For the time being, I've split the folders to different backup jobs, but this is costing us some deduplication loss and is less convenient.

Questions:
Does anyone have suggestions how to solve this problem?
Are we the only ones having a problem with the restore browser limitation?

Thanks,
Leonid

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Re: Backup and restore VMs with duplicate names

Post by Dima P. » Jul 24, 2018 5:46 pm

Hello Leonid.

Out of curiosity, can you please clarify why your VMs have identical names? I wonder how you manage all these VMs on a day to day basis? Thank you in advance.

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Re: Backup and restore VMs with duplicate names

Post by l.vinokur » Aug 03, 2018 11:34 am

Fair question.
We have several labs running on the vCentrr and they are divided by folders. Most of them are clones from initial parent and each lab is being used to develop a separate solution, testing.

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Re: Backup and restore VMs with duplicate names

Post by Dima P. » Aug 03, 2018 5:46 pm

Thanks! Regarding the tags - I double checked and you ca use selection based on tags: when you perform Full VM recovery and click Add VM, select Add VM from infrastructure and on the right top corner select VM tags (more info in this Help Center article). Will that work for your case?

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Re: Backup and restore VMs with duplicate names

Post by l.vinokur » Aug 03, 2018 6:35 pm

Actually, this is one of the backup options I am using.
The issue I have is that during restore from backup the options are very limited, specifically you can only select by VM name.

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Re: Backup and restore VMs with duplicate names

Post by foggy » Aug 07, 2018 4:59 pm

Hi Leonid, you can browse the entire virtual infrastructure to find the exact VM you'd like to restore. Doesn't this help?

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Re: Backup and restore VMs with duplicate names

Post by l.vinokur » Aug 08, 2018 3:45 am

I am talking about restoring from backup. When you choose to restore from backup, no additional options are available.

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Re: Backup and restore VMs with duplicate names

Post by foggy » Aug 08, 2018 3:05 pm

Right, but what prevents you from selecting the VM from the infrastructure?

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Re: Backup and restore VMs with duplicate names

Post by l.vinokur » Aug 09, 2018 12:03 am

vCenter crash.
We also use Veeam backups as a mechanism to transfer the "networks" between different Veeam servers and then you have completely 0 visibility on what was in the backup.

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Re: Backup and restore VMs with duplicate names

Post by foggy » Aug 09, 2018 12:07 pm

Ok, got it. If there's no vCenter, you have to browse backups indeed.

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Re: Backup and restore VMs with duplicate names

Post by l.vinokur » Aug 10, 2018 6:38 am

Do you think the feature to have some more visibility on the backups will ever be available?
It would require to store some more metadata in the backup.

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Re: Backup and restore VMs with duplicate names

Post by foggy » Aug 10, 2018 11:06 am

It will depend on the number of requests for this functionality and your's seems to be the first one ever.

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Re: Backup and restore VMs with duplicate names

Post by l.vinokur » Aug 10, 2018 9:16 pm

Figured as much.
Thanks!

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