Discussions specific to the VMware vSphere hypervisor
Post Reply
albertwt
Expert
Posts: 640
Liked: 20 times
Joined: Nov 05, 2009 12:24 pm
Location: Sydney, NSW
Contact:

Best practice in configuring Veeam Backup repository in DAS

Post by albertwt » May 19, 2016 10:29 pm

People,

I have just installed the new 36 TB Disk enclosure to my existing Backup Repository host running VBR 9.0 Update 1 on Win 2008 R2 OS.

So I wonder what is the best practice in configuring and setting the new LUN to accommodate the best practice in configuring it according to Veeam ?
eg. LUN size, stripe size, NTFS Allocation Unit Size, etc...

At the moment there are another drives that is 10-12 TB LUNs already working as NTFS drives.

Thanks,
--
/* Veeam software enthusiast user & supporter ! */

albertwt
Expert
Posts: 640
Liked: 20 times
Joined: Nov 05, 2009 12:24 pm
Location: Sydney, NSW
Contact:

Re: Best practice in configuring Veeam Backup repository in

Post by albertwt » May 20, 2016 12:02 am

My server and the storage enclosure is HP brand.

I wonder if there is updated article http://veeampdf.s3.amazonaws.com/whitep ... rmance.pdf for Scale Out Backup Repo or Veeam 9.0 U1 ?
--
/* Veeam software enthusiast user & supporter ! */

P.Tide
Product Manager
Posts: 5267
Liked: 461 times
Joined: May 19, 2015 1:46 pm
Contact:

Re: Best practice in configuring Veeam Backup repository in

Post by P.Tide » May 20, 2016 9:49 am 1 person likes this post

Hi,
LUN size
Depends on how long your backup is.
stripe size, NTFS Allocation Unit Size
Please check this thread.

You might want to check A Deep Look at Scale-out Backup Repository.

Thanks

albertwt
Expert
Posts: 640
Liked: 20 times
Joined: Nov 05, 2009 12:24 pm
Location: Sydney, NSW
Contact:

Re: Best practice in configuring Veeam Backup repository in

Post by albertwt » Jun 22, 2016 1:09 am

PTide wrote:Hi,

Please check this thread.

You might want to check A Deep Look at Scale-out Backup Repository.

Thanks
Cool,

Many thanks Mr. Tide, I will select the largest Strip size possible supported by my Storage Controller.
--
/* Veeam software enthusiast user & supporter ! */

mcrape
Veeam Vanguard
Posts: 53
Liked: 20 times
Joined: Jun 27, 2011 7:39 pm
Full Name: Matt Crape
Contact:

Re: Best practice in configuring Veeam Backup repository in

Post by mcrape » Jun 22, 2016 2:02 am 2 people like this post

I highly recommend watching the 2015 Backup Repository Best Practices video by Gostev. A lot of good info in there, including tidbits about block sizes, allocation units, and RAID penalties.

If you end up using dedupe, Server 2016 is apparently worth the wait as dedupe is much better in it vs. 2012 R2.

ferrus
Veeam ProPartner
Posts: 245
Liked: 31 times
Joined: Dec 03, 2015 3:41 pm
Location: UK
Contact:

Re: Best practice in configuring Veeam Backup repository in

Post by ferrus » Jun 22, 2016 11:38 am 1 person likes this post

During our Veeam server installs, I amended the NTFS alloc size of our 43TB DAS repos according to best practice (can't remember what it is off hand).

Months later when we started Instant Restore testing, we found that the DAS storage couldn't be used for the vPower NFS folder.
The c: drive and SSD worked perfectly fine, however.
It was suggested by Veeam support that there may be an incompatibility between VMware's NFS implementation and NTFS block size.

albertwt
Expert
Posts: 640
Liked: 20 times
Joined: Nov 05, 2009 12:24 pm
Location: Sydney, NSW
Contact:

Re: Best practice in configuring Veeam Backup repository in

Post by albertwt » Jun 22, 2016 1:31 pm

ferrus wrote:During our Veeam server installs, I amended the NTFS alloc size of our 43TB DAS repos according to best practice (can't remember what it is off hand).

Months later when we started Instant Restore testing, we found that the DAS storage couldn't be used for the vPower NFS folder.
The c: drive and SSD worked perfectly fine, however.
It was suggested by Veeam support that there may be an incompatibility between VMware's NFS implementation and NTFS block size.
So what is the suggested maximum Allocation unit size ?

Can you please share it here with the below command:

Code: Select all

fsutil fsinfo ntfsinfo D:
or any other drive that is used for vPower NFS service ?
fsutil fsinfo ntfsinfo drive letter:
--
/* Veeam software enthusiast user & supporter ! */

ferrus
Veeam ProPartner
Posts: 245
Liked: 31 times
Joined: Dec 03, 2015 3:41 pm
Location: UK
Contact:

Re: Best practice in configuring Veeam Backup repository in

Post by ferrus » Jun 22, 2016 2:04 pm 1 person likes this post

Think the 43TB DAS was setup with 64k, and the 980GB SSD with the standard 4k.
The DAS was formatted with the large file switch, as advised.

Code: Select all

RAID 6 DAS (43TB)

NTFS Version   :                  3.1
LFS Version    :                  2.0
Number Sectors :                  0x00000002ba7cddff
Total Clusters :                  0x000000002ba7cddf
Free Clusters  :                  0x0000000009b0d69b
Total Reserved :                  0x0000000000000000
Bytes Per Sector  :               4096
Bytes Per Physical Sector :       4096
Bytes Per Cluster :               65536
Bytes Per FileRecord Segment    : 4096
Clusters Per FileRecord Segment : 0


SSD

NTFS Version   :                  3.1
LFS Version    :                  2.0
Number Sectors :                  0x000000006fbd0fff
Total Clusters :                  0x000000000df7a1ff
Free Clusters  :                  0x000000000dbf870a
Total Reserved :                  0x0000000000000000
Bytes Per Sector  :               512
Bytes Per Physical Sector :       512
Bytes Per Cluster :               4096
Bytes Per FileRecord Segment    : 1024
Clusters Per FileRecord Segment : 0 

albertwt
Expert
Posts: 640
Liked: 20 times
Joined: Nov 05, 2009 12:24 pm
Location: Sydney, NSW
Contact:

Re: Best practice in configuring Veeam Backup repository in

Post by albertwt » Jun 22, 2016 11:04 pm

Cool, many thanks for the information and the sharing Ferrus.
--
/* Veeam software enthusiast user & supporter ! */

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: et.sim, Google [Bot] and 17 guests