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Experience with CIFS and NFS backup from Qumulo storage

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Not using Qumulo as Veeam repo storage, no. I'm talking about using Veeam to backup hundreds of TiB of CIFS and NFS data being shared from Qumulo storage. Does anyone here have direct experience with such? Any best practices? Tips? Tricks?

Customer who is deploying Veeam for their vSphere backup (~1,400 VMs). They also have 600+ TiB of non-VM CIFS and NFS file shares served out by Qumulo. I want Veeam to protect that data, too.
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Re: Experience with CIFS and NFS backup from Qumulo storage

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Hello,
assuming that Qumulo storage behaves similar like other filers... go for it :-)

Same best practices like for any other genal NAS backup apply.

If they are backing up to 7k spindles, I would check out meta-extents. They are primarily for inline-dedupe appliances, but I'm sure they also bring performance boost for 7k spindles on (Apollo) servers. https://helpcenter.veeam.com/docs/backu ... ml?ver=110 - the -metadata parameter

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Re: Experience with CIFS and NFS backup from Qumulo storage

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Thanks, Hannes.

I thought this might get more of a response. So is nobody out there using Veeam to backup CIFS shares and NFS exports hosted on Qumulo storage? I really don't want to be a trailblazer here. :-)

And I will indeed check out your URL because my cu is writing their backups to HPE StoreOnce.
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Re: Experience with CIFS and NFS backup from Qumulo storage

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Hello,
there might be some Qumulo storage customers out there in the Veeam customer base. As you limit them to 600TB+, chances are probably low that they read this thread. Most customers come to the forums if they see issues. If you don't find Qumulo issues on the forums, then chances are good that everything works fine.
I really don't want to be a trailblazer here. :-)
uhm, can you explain? I mean, what's the point of naming the filer Isilon, Netapp, whatever or Qumulo? It's just SMB & NFS protocol that works everywhere the same if properly implemented (which I expect for Qumulo)
my cu is writing their backups to HPE StoreOnce.
as always, I strongly recommend following the Veeam reference architecture and using StoreOnce only for backup copy jobs. HPE has Apollo and Nimble as proper backup targets in the portfolio where I hear a lot of positive feedback.

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Re: Experience with CIFS and NFS backup from Qumulo storage

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Posting here as this is the the only thread mentioning qumulo on the forums. How did this turn out? We are wanting to do something similar.

Separately, will Veeam offer Qumulo integration anytime soon? I do not see them on the link of integrated storage products (https://www.veeam.com/kb4206) , so lack of snapshot processing make this not as ideal as other vendors.
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Hello,
it depends on what means "soon" for you :-) We have it on our list, but cannot provide any estimation when it might happen.

If Qumulo snapshots can be scripted remotely, then you can do backup from snapshot with a pre-script and backup from a storage snapshot path

If Qumulo supports remote VSS, then it would even work without scripting.

Would any of that work for you?

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Soon would be V12 ideally :)

Otherwise the remote scripting is workable but a bit painful as you can imagine and not as nice to deal with issues, etc.

Not sure on VSS but will review it.
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definitely not in V12 :-)

It would also work without scripting, if Qumulo creates snapshots automatically. Then you could also just back up from any of the existing snapshots.
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Re: Experience with CIFS and NFS backup from Qumulo storage

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We are implementing Qumulo at our customers.
We are a Veeam parner and we prefer a single backup solution at all our customer locations.
Qumulo offers an API so integration sould be posible.

Will Veeam provide Qumulo integration anytime soon.
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Re: Experience with CIFS and NFS backup from Qumulo storage

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Hello,
just to be clear: we can back up Qumulo systems without a change file tracking API integration and use our own change file tracking mechanisms.

To your question: the requests for Qumulo are close to zero. They were more some years ago. So there is no ETA when this integration could happen.

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