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Re: Back up a CIFS Share

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Offtopic: NDMP support would be nice

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Re: Back up a CIFS Share

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+1 for NDMP - otherwise the product will never complete properly with the likes of BackupExec

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[MERGED] NDMP or Mapped Drive backup support (case 018180)

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Case 01818089

This is a feature request based off of my case 01818089.
I am running Dell FS7610 (Fluid System) NAS.
We need to be able to backup our NAS CIFS shares either with an NDMP solution or be able to backup mapped drives (UNC or otherwise) using Veeam.
We are currently using two backup solutions Veeam for most of our operation and Backup Exec for our NDMP backups. The only thing that Veeam will not backup is our NAS shares which is a major part of our environment.

Please add the feature to backup Dell NAS CIFS shares so we can use Veeam as our complete backup solution.

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Re: Back up a CIFS Share

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+1 NDMP

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[MERGED] NDMP Backup - Feature Request

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Hi fellow Veeam admins.

I love using Veeam and its by far the easiest software to use for virtual machines and now even physical machines.
I have data stored on a NAS that i am now writing directly to tape.
But as other backup admins probably find these are not the only type of data that we need to backup.
My final issue i have at the moment is we use a NetApp in cluster mode as primary CIFS storage. We SnapMirror all of the volumes to a secondary NetApp. These volumes are not accessible by browsing to them so i cant use File to Tape.

At the moment i am having to run a completely different piece of backup software (that isn't great but its not the worst i have used) and partition my library so i can backup the secondary copy of the data.
What i really would love to have is 1 piece of backup software to rule them all! and that software to be Veeam.

I would be interested how others get around the issue and also if it is an issue for others?
So basically can someone advise me on how to do this, or raise it as a feature request?

Many thanks
Adam

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Re: Back up a CIFS Share

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Why don't you create CIFs shares on the snapmirror target. Even though the volumes are read only, you still should be able to read from them. I don't think it needs write access, I can't remember if it needs to set the archive bit file.

Worth a test try.

If that don't work, worst case scenario (if you have some storage), is snapmirror the target to another volume and break it (you could use a one liner script daily to resync and then break..food for thought).

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[MERGED] NDMP backup with VEEAM B&R v9.

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Hi,
I am considering recommending Veeam B&R v9 to a client to replace their current backup and DR solution however they currently have a number of large VNX fileservers which are currently backed up via NDMP.

Can anyone tell me what is Veeam's best practice for backing up fileservers? (maybe Veeam can reply to this question). And how other's are backing up fileservers?

Any advise or suggestion will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

J

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Re: NDMP backup with VEEAM B&R v9.

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Same question here, only with NetApp SAN. Excitedly watched https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nATTQ5FYHk

Sent off an email to colleagues showcasing Veeam's availability suite and competitive pricing, only to realize that we can't efficiently backup any of the CIFS shares on our NetApp FAS series SAN. Only the VM's on our FlexPod's would benefit from a robust DR plan and have some neat features.

From what I've read since yesterday, without NDMP support we cannot consider file copies or mounting the shares with a proxy VM as they won't be fast enough or reliable. No indications of v9.5 supporting NDMP either (I'll gladly be wrong!)

Skimming this article is what led to believe Veeam could do what we needed - https://www.veeam.com/blog/veeam-to-off ... etapp.html

Some other options that COULD allow you to use Veeam would be to virtualize your shares so you can scale across (multiple Windows or Linux fileserver VM's) instead of scale up (more expensive filers and controllers etc.). Haven't really thought it through as to how it would affect tiering, or how to even manage such a change while in production. Might have to look into VTL and other options while considering Veeam solely for the VM's.

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Re: NDMP backup with VEEAM B&R v9.

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Hi AAT,
Thanks for your reply.
I would be interested to know if and how you resolve this.
One option which I am considering is to take a checkpoint of the filesystem on the VNX and mount it to a VM and then backup the VM as normal, however I will need to figure out a way to schedule the checkpoint and mounting so that it all happens in the correct sequence.

J

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Re: Back up a CIFS Share

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+1 on cifs and NDMP

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Re: Back up a CIFS Share

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+1 on NDMP

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[MERGED] Plans for NDMP backup?

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Are there any plans for NDMP backup support for any future releases of VEEAM? My company would benefit greatly from this. Probably the one thing lacking in this fine product from my perspective.

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Re: Back up a CIFS Share

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Yes, this feature is still on our radar for our next releases. Thanks!

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Re: Back up a CIFS Share

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+1 NDMP

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[MERGED] Backup a NAS share?

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Hi,

What is the best practice to backup a Dell Equallogic NAS share? How do I back it up?

Regards

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Re: Back up a CIFS Share

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Hi Roger, you can do this using file copy jobs. Please see above for some other hints as well.

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Re: Back up a CIFS Share

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And if I want to backup a Dell FS4500 NAS? Should I use file copy jobs here also? And doesn´t file copy job do full backups every time?

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Re: Back up a CIFS Share

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Correct, file copy jobs are not incremental.

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Re: Back up a CIFS Share

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+1 on CIFS
+1 on NDMP

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Re: Back up a CIFS Share

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+1 NDMP
+1 CIFS

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Re: Back up a CIFS Share

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+1 NDMP
+1 CIFS
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[MERGED] Setting up a small site

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Hi all

I'm stuck for a method of creating a good backup routine for a small site we have with approx 20 users.

They currently have a physical DC which doubles as a fileserver. The plan is to replace it with a 1U pizza box to act as a DC, but have a storage device (Drobo 810n) to provide CIFS capability and move all the fileserver data across to it.

What I'm trying to figure out is how to back this data up with Veeam. The plan is to split the Drobo into two volumes, one with the active data, the second for the backup data. We don't have the luxury of an offsite replication solution as the site link is 256K. No tape devices on site.

How would I configure this on the Veeam management server. I want backup the data on a NAS to a second volume on the same NAS. I thought it would be straightforward, but I can't seem to square it away in my head how to do it.

Thanks

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Re: Setting up a small site

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Hi,
The plan is to split the Drobo into two volumes, one with the active data, the second for the backup data.
I would recommend against keeping backups on the very same device where the data is located.
I want backup the data on a NAS<...>
You can use File Copy job.

Thank you.

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Re: Setting up a small site

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PTide wrote:Hi,
I would recommend against keeping backups on the very same device where the data is located.

Thank you.
I agree, but cost constraint means my options are limited.

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Re: Back up a CIFS Share

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I would recommend instead of getting a NAS is running Hyper-V on the new server you are going to buy, with 1 VM as your DC and 1 VM as your file server.

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Re: Back up a CIFS Share

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But then if I need to reboot the host, what does it use to authenticate itself before the VM's can start?

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Re: Back up a CIFS Share

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Actually, ignore that, its a fair idea as a HV host launches in kernel since 2012 and doesn't need a physical DC.

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Re: Back up a CIFS Share

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Vitaliy S. wrote:Yes, this feature is still on our radar for our next releases. Thanks!
Hi Vitaly,

do you have any information on the NDMP and CIFS backup feature? Can you tell us if the feature will be released in v9.5 or v10?

Regards,
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Re: Back up a CIFS Share

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Hi Roland, 9.5 was already released last year. We cannot comment on ETA for any particular feature since we do not share our roadmap.

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+CIFS

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