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Veeam windows with B&R free

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Hi,

Can Veeam Agent (free or paid) be used with B&R free as repository? I saw in some information that it should be possible but when I try to set it I get:
unalbe to detect available repositories. veeam backup free edition server s are not supported as backup targets
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Hi Patryk,

It is supported, but you need to find the "hidden" mode of Veeam Backup Free. Have a look at this article from Luca to guide you: http://www.virtualtothecore.com/en/use- ... s-backups/

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Hi,

I've already done what is shown in article.
I have repository, option allow to everyone is selected but agent still can't backup to free edition.
Plus I don't see Agent for windows license tab.
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ok, now I see how it works.
There has to be a license key installed. And for now I don't see a possibility to use Veeam Agent Free + B&R free because after agent license expires (and grace period ends) there is again info - that free edition server are not supported.
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Actually, I can be wrong but I thought this was not necessary. I don't have that type of environment at my hands, but if you do, just enable the Full Functionality mode in VBR and it should work also. VEB (Free) + Backup free edition can work together so unless something has changed I see no reason why it should not work with the free edition also. The only thing is that you cannot mix licensed and non-licensed agents
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Maybe something changed.
In test environment I did fresh install of B&R free, verified that there is repository with aget rigts enabled. From test pc I tried to set backup to B&R from free Agent version - no luck. I installed trial agents license into free B&R, and I was able to configure backup.
I changed date month forward so that trial license would expire. Veeam agent switched to free version but B&R said that it's in grace period. I moved date another month forward, grace period ended and I as no longer able to ser agent with B&R.


I have the same for Veeam Endpoint Backup 1.5
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From test pc I tried to set backup to B&R from free Agent version - no luck. I installed trial agents license into free B&R, and I was able to configure backup.
This behavior is expected. To run VAW licensed edition and backup to VBR repository you should install license to VBR console.
Veeam agent switched to free version but B&R said that it's in grace period. I moved date another month forward, grace period ended and I as no longer able to ser agent with B&R.
Why you changed the dates? Try to remove license from the VBR and add it back
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ok, but I still don't have an answer. Can I use Veeam Agent Free or Veeam Endpoint backup Free with Backup and Recovery free
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Patryk,

You can use VBR FREE with Agent FREE to perform restores. Backup in such case should be imported to the VBR FREE.
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Thank You for Your answer.
In that case we have to purchase B&R essentiials, we don't want to do backup to SMB share.
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Patryk,

VBR license is not required. You can get Veeam Agent for Windows license and install it on top of Veeam B&R server. Then VBR will act in ‘agent’ mode: it will distribute license counters across all connected agents, allow to backup to Veeam repository, backup copy for agent backup files, file to tape jobs and other features.

P.S. You can test this senario with VAW 2.0 Beta and VBR 9.5 U1 FREE
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But it will be less expensive to use veeam essentials + agent free, and for this client we don't need paid agent features.
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Patryk,

You are the one to decide. If you don’t need the agent features and production support you can go with essentials. I am not sure, though, it’s going to be cheaper. How many agents you would like to deploy?
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we need ~25 agents.
Plus with essential I'll get backup copy function and ability to schedule VM backups.
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In such case, I think it’s a good idea to go with essential bundle. You can purchase agent license later if required :wink:
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As per this link: https://go.veeam.com/promo-hybrid-cloud it shows the Veeam agent v2.0 is free just for one year.
is that correct ?
What happened after that time expires?
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Hi Albert,

After that you can pay for the solution if you want to continue to use the features. Obviously you can also stop using the functionality in the paid products and go back to the free edition or stop using it at all

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Hi Mike,

Thanks for the response, so what's the limitation when it is running under the free edition ?
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Hi Albert,

https://www.veeam.com/blog/veeam-agent- ... lable.html

In this blog post Clint has a part that explains the differences between the 3 editions. If you have a specific question around those, let us know

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Re: Veeam windows with B&R free

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Thanks, Mike.
Finally I can see the difference like below from the Blog post (Beta edition).
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License managed by B&R is a Workstation license. Do I have to purchase a Workstation license when the Beta expires?
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If you want to have Workstation edition than yes, otherwise you can use Free edition which does not require the license.
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Gostev wrote:If you want to have Workstation edition than yes, otherwise you can use Free edition which does not require the license.
Wow, that is so awesome :D
Veeam is the most generous Enterprise backup software that I know of.

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I want to use B&R as a repository for VAW backups. Do I have to purchase a Workstation license when the Beta expires?
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Hi Technogod,

Nope, even when using a B&R repository it is not necessary to have a workstation license (you do have a VBR setup today? Licensed?). Our current version (VEB 1.5) already support this also

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I am using B&R 9.5.0.823 Free and VEB 1.5. When I try to create a backup to Veeam Backup & Replication Repository the following error occurs.

4/27/2017 1:49:05 PM :: Error: Veeam agents can only use advanced backup functionality when backing up to licensed versions of Veeam Backup & Replication.
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Hi Technogod,

Are you using VEB or VAW? Or have you tested with VAW before with that same B&R server?
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From what I understand you need a licensed version of either Veeam Agent or a licensed version of Veeam Backup and Replication
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That is what I've found in my testing. I'm hoping once VAW is released it will be able to backup to a B&R Free repository.
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No changes here - just like with VEB today, free VAW agent will not be able to backup into B&R free repository. You need to license either the agent or B&R to enable this scenario (with VEB, you had to license B&R - now with VAW you have two options). Thanks!
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