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Oracle VM support

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Hi Gostov,

I work for Oracle VM team and would like to have some discussions around Veeam support of Oracle VM. We have some customers using your solution and would like to understand better Veeam. Can you contact me offline to discuss this? I believe there are some great opportunities wrt to Oracle VM customers using Veeam.
Thanks.
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Re: Oracle VM support

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Hi Ted, sounds good I will. Thanks!
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Re: Oracle VM support

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Ted and Gostev, I work for a company who use OVS in house and are pushing it to our clients. Can you give any updates or expectaions on if\when Veeam will work with OVS and OVM? Having used Veeam previously in VMWare environments I'm keen to deploy it as part of an end to end solution for ourselves and clients.

Cheers
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Re: Oracle VM support

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Hi Chris, we are not planning on adding support for any other hypervisor in foreseeable future. Thanks!
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[MERGED] OVM hypervisor support

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Hi, we have a number of Oracle workloads that are not possible to cost effectively host under Vmware due to partitioning rules around Oracle licensing. Oracle won't budge on licensing so we are forced to run Oracle workloads under OVM as Redhat/Centos OVM VMs with partitioning of cpu cores to match Oracle licensing.
Long term we are trying to pusuade all our partners to develop software in a database agnostic fashion, but we are stuck with OVM and Oracle DB and Oracle middleware for the long haul unfortunately.

As Veeam have done a great job of integrating Hyperv into the B&R product, have they considered adding OVM into the mix?

This could have favourable significant DR licensing impacts as well as consolidating the product stacks at a backup layer.

Come on Veeam - we know you want to!
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Re: OVM hypervisor support

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Hello Ashley,
Thank you for this post, and your feedback!

As far as I can see there were several requests on the OVM (as well as for other hypervisors) and it is considered to be interesting request, so its definitely under the scope of the Veeam R&D team. Unfortunately it would not be included to B&R next major release however it might be included in the future. How soon? ETA is only based on the customer’s request like yours today, so thank you for this input again!
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Re: Oracle VM support

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If it helps I'll add my vote for this as it would really help a proposal we are currently working on. With Oracle's licensing schemes and increasing core count in CPUs it would seem this would become more prevalent.
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Re: Oracle VM support

Post by Marcio Thiel » 1 person likes this post

Hi we alsoare going to Use OVM, because Oracle Licensing.
We already use Veeam for VMWARE.
Here is my vote.
hope it will come soon

best regards.
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Re: Oracle VM support

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Here's my vote too!! Have to use Oracle VM because of licensing for Oracle.
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We are joining the club of those who "have the choice" of:

* host Oracle on non-standard (gimped) dedicated servers
* Pay Oracle $2M for licensing because they don't play nice with VMware....
* starting to use Oracle VM

Obviously everyone would be a lot happier if Oracle relaxed their licensing to include VMware's technology approach for CPU assignment but hell is more likely to freeze over sooner.

If Veeam could put Oracle VM on their roadmap that would help a lot to ease the pain.
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Re: Oracle VM support

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Count us in!

As others have stated, we are moving to OVM due to licensing of Oracle on VMWare.

Having the ability to integrate Veeam with OVM would be AMAZING
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Re: Oracle VM support

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It seems that adding support of Oracle VM to Veeam would be a great help to many - please consider this.
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Re: Oracle VM support

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Please consider this as a vote.

We too have OVM and ASM running in a separate Hypervisor environment due to licensing.
Although the Linux Agent is getting better, it would be better to have it done at the Hypervisor end with easier Oracle Database backup options all through one interface.
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Here another vote for Oracle Vm support !

Not that we're happy that we have to use OVM because of the licensing issue's, but veeam support could ease things a bit....
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Re: Oracle VM support

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Give us the agent for Oracle VM, please!!!
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Re: Oracle VM support

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It would certainly be nice if Veeam supported OVM. That is the direction we are headed and it would be very nice to be able to perform snapshots of servers that are application aware when the new RMAN component is released with Update 4 later this year.
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Re: Oracle VM support

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Hi.

We also need to use Oracle VM Manager due to license issue and I suscribe the request for a OVMM agent that provides the same functionality as it is available with VMware hypervisor.

Oracle has a very very agressive prize policy with regard DBMS and hypervisor that penalizes using a hypervisor different to OVMM. Companies like mine, with tight budget, are "forced" to use OVMM.

It would be very nice to be able to use with OVVM the same backup and recovery strategy than its used with VMware.

Thanks in advance
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Re: Oracle VM support

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One more vote for this!
Oracle VM support for Backup and Replication along with Veeam ONE monitoring would be great.

Thank you.
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Re: Oracle VM support

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ONE MORE VOTE FROM ME FOR THIS

Thank You.
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Re: Oracle VM support

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Hi,

Please notify me when the feature is available.

03391576

Thanks
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Re: Oracle VM support

Post by Dima P. » 1 person likes this post

Hello folks,

We track this feature request very attentively, so thank you for sharing your votes!

When possible please include the hypervisor version you are using and the amount of VMs you aim to protect from Oracle environment. Thank you in advance!
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Re: Oracle VM support

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Is OVM for Sparc supported in the newest release?
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Re: Oracle VM support

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The newest release of what, sorry? If you mean Veeam Backup & Replication, then it does not support OVM at all (only vSphere, Hyper-V and AHV).
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Re: Oracle VM support

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Hi there,

Any news about support for OracleVM? We are on OracleVM 3.4 within a fast growing OracleVM Environment.

Thx, Ben.
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Re: Oracle VM support

Post by PTide » 1 person likes this post

Ben,

If the VMs are x86 HVM without PV drivers, then you can might want to give the latest VAL a try - it supports Oracle databases processing.

Thanks!
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Re: Oracle VM support

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Any news on this? Count us in...

Until last week 12 ESXi hosts, today 10 ESXi hosts and 2 OVM Server, in near future 10 OVM Server Version 3.4 with ~100VMs
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Re: Oracle VM support

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Please don't expect any news this or next year (and I just cannot see beyond that right now).
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Re: Oracle VM support

Post by cristiano.cumer » 4 people like this post

Oracle Vm has no place in the hypervisor landscape. Wouldn’t it be much simpler for Oracle to accept that actually people want to use VMware ESXI or HyperV to virualize their Database and stop screwing their customer base whit absurd licensing rules? Wouldn’t that be much simplier for everyone?
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Re: Oracle VM support

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I tested the Veeam Agent for Linux for an Oracle Enterprise Linux VM running in the Oracle hypervisor (OVM) in a proof of concept test, and the backup and restore process worked very well. "Bare Metal Restore" and file level restore were both successful. Would the customer prefer a snapshot-based backup? Yes, but they don't have that today, so this would work well. They are using OEL because of the licensing threat from Oracle, and currently backing up the VMs with TSM agents and Oracle RMAN backups, which Veeam is able to satisfy.
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Re: Oracle VM support

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Hi, is there a best practice on how to backup VMs on a OracleVM cluster?
Agent base Backup (BareMetal). Will the restore be easy to do ?
Thanks
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