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How do you force a surebackup job to forget VMs
Hello,
How do you force a surebackup job to stop restoring VMs that are no longer in the linked backup jobs?
Support said we cannot for as long as the backups themselves exists?????
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How do you force a surebackup job to stop restoring VMs that are no longer in the linked backup jobs?
Support said we cannot for as long as the backups themselves exists?????
Case # 05272007
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Re: How do you force a surebackup job to forget VMs
Hi Mohamed,
The conclusion of our support engineer is correct because SureBackup does not validate the job but validates the backup produced by this job and checks all VMs from this backup. Once a VM which is no longer processed by the job is deleted by retention, it will not be tested by SureBackup.
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The conclusion of our support engineer is correct because SureBackup does not validate the job but validates the backup produced by this job and checks all VMs from this backup. Once a VM which is no longer processed by the job is deleted by retention, it will not be tested by SureBackup.
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Re: How do you force a surebackup job to forget VMs
In our case all backus are retained for years!!!! aren't everybody's? so for years to come we will be testing these VMs?
what's worse is that these are only found in our object store... so everyday we are restoring from S3.... We can't afford that.....
Is this really by design? What options do we have? create new backup jobs from scratch?
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what's worse is that these are only found in our object store... so everyday we are restoring from S3.... We can't afford that.....
Is this really by design? What options do we have? create new backup jobs from scratch?
Thanks,
Mohamed.
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Re: How do you force a surebackup job to forget VMs
Could you clarify what this means:
> Once a VM which is no longer processed by the job is deleted by retention
Our retention includes GFS, to keep weeklies/monthlies/yearlies.
> Once a VM which is no longer processed by the job is deleted by retention
Our retention includes GFS, to keep weeklies/monthlies/yearlies.
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Re: How do you force a surebackup job to forget VMs
Hi Mohamed
There is a feature request ongoing with other customers facing the same situation.
In my case, in one of my environments, I have a monthly GFS Backup created on august 7th, which is tested each week. That is the last backup available of this vm. And in another environment a Exchange Server from first saturday in october (GFS monthly).
I would not create new backup jobs for the moment. This will create active fulls for all vms. Depending on how big your environment is, you would need to much storage.
Hopefully there will be some optimizations around this situation in one of the next veeam versions.
There is a feature request ongoing with other customers facing the same situation.
In my case, in one of my environments, I have a monthly GFS Backup created on august 7th, which is tested each week. That is the last backup available of this vm. And in another environment a Exchange Server from first saturday in october (GFS monthly).
I would not create new backup jobs for the moment. This will create active fulls for all vms. Depending on how big your environment is, you would need to much storage.
Hopefully there will be some optimizations around this situation in one of the next veeam versions.
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Re: How do you force a surebackup job to forget VMs
I should have mentioned that I was talking about retention for deleted VMs and not about retention policy that controls the number of restore points. Also, SureBackup checks the most recent restore point of the regular backup chain by default so I don't think that it would mount some VMs from GFS backups.
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Re: How do you force a surebackup job to forget VMs
Hi Peter. At least this one VM I was checking on this morning, is definitely a deleted VM. It has been deleted for a while. the sureback job is still restoring it, even though the last restore point available is some three months old, and no longer in our on-prem repo, but only in the S3 layer.
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Re: How do you force a surebackup job to forget VMs
Oh, Peter, are you saying we just need to check the box "Remove deleted items data after option" ?
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Thanks for the info Mildur!
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Re: How do you force a surebackup job to forget VMs
Hello,
Thanks!
Yes.Irhazi wrote:we just need to check the box "Remove deleted items data after option" ?
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Re: How do you force a surebackup job to forget VMs
So I turned that option on, "Remove deleted items data" after "14 days".. but this old VM is still not removed!
In the backup job I see many lines like so:
3/11/2022 6:30:20 PM :: VMs skipped. Unable to delete the selected instance from backup: some of the restored points are immutable.
It does not tell me which VMs it is talking about.... The immutability is set to 30 days, but this one VM am focusing on was last backed up more than 3 months ago!
Why is it still not able to delete this VM from the backup job?
In the backup job I see many lines like so:
3/11/2022 6:30:20 PM :: VMs skipped. Unable to delete the selected instance from backup: some of the restored points are immutable.
It does not tell me which VMs it is talking about.... The immutability is set to 30 days, but this one VM am focusing on was last backed up more than 3 months ago!
Why is it still not able to delete this VM from the backup job?
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Re: How do you force a surebackup job to forget VMs
GFS restore points are immutable there entire lifetime. They cannot be deleted until the retention is over.but this one VM am focusing on was last backed up more than 3 months ago!
Only exemption, if you have a SOBR with Move Policy to the capacity tier enabled. Then they would use the configured retention from the repository, or they couldn‘t be moved to the capacity tier.
Removing after 14 days will not work, because the files are immutable for 30 days. Please set the removing deleted items value to 35 days. The warning shouldn‘t be shown anymore.So I turned that option on, "Remove deleted items data" after "14 days".. but this old VM is still not removed!
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