Map Backup Comman

[y1008946]

Hi, I'm trying to create a backup job which maps the backup to a backup file in the repository.

Is there a powershell command to set the map backup stage of the backup job wizard?

Thanks

[y1008946]

Not able to edit my original request.

Is it possible to set the 'map backup' location of an existing backup job?

Thanks

[Vitaliy S.]

I don't believe re-mapping is required here. Can you please confirm that repository rescan option doesn't update the number of restore points?

[y1008946]

Hi, just to confirm the steps I have done to test it.

- run a backup job

- run the corresponding backup copy job to send the backup to the offsite server

- rescanned the repository

The dummy backup job doesnt reflect the new restore point though.

Thanks Vitaliy

[y1008946]

Hi Vitaliy, i've spent some time testing and tried it a few times. The steps I have found need to be carried out to update the restore points are:

- remove the vm from application group

- delete the backup from Backups -> Disk

- rescan the repository

- it adds the backup into Backups -> Imported

- in the dummy backup job map the backup to the imported backup

- add the dummy backup in to the application group

The steps do take a while to carry out. I dont know if there is a way to create a powershell script for them?

Thanks

[Vitaliy S.]

Daniel,

Our QC team has tried to reproduce various scenarios of using backup copy and SureBackup jobs and here is the result.

Please be aware that this method is officially not supported, as you need to verify your backup prior sending them to the offsite location. Here you go the instructions on how to make it work:

1. Install Veeam B&R console on the site used as a target for the backup copy job
2. Create and add backup repository where backup copy job stores its files.
NOTE: repository type cannot be CIFS share.
3. Run a rescan job to populate backup console with backup copy job files.
4. Add ESXi host you want to start SureBackup jobs on
5. Create SB virtual lab
6. Create application group by adding VMs from the rescanned repository.

PS command example:

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Add-VSBViApplicationGroup –Name “AG” –RestorePoint (Get-VBRRestorePoint -Name <VM_Name>)

7. Create SureBackup job with this application group via GUI.
8. Prior starting the SB job, run a rescan job on demand using this cmdlet:

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Sync-VBRBackupRepository -Repository (Get-VBRBackupRepository -Name <Repository_name>)

9. Start SureBackup job.
NOTE: Make sure backup copy job is idle state, otherwise your SB job will fail.

P.S. Kudos to Nikita for these guidelines.

[y1008946]

Hi, thanks for this its great.

It hasnt worked for me though unfortunately.

I have tried quite a few times and what I have found is that the imported backups do update in the repository.

But when running the surebackup job the restore points dont update...

So for example:

- I create a backup of a VM at 10:00 and copy it offsite

- create an application goup and surebackup job in the offsite server

- run the surebackup job and it says the restore point is from 10:00. Surebackup job is a success.

- I create another backup of the same VM at 12:00 and copy it offsite

- rescan the repository in the offsite server. In the imported backups of the offsite server it correctly shows the last two restore points are 12:00 and 10:00.

- I run the surebackup job and it says the restore point is from 10:00.

The only way I have found which works is to remve the surebackup job and the application group, then re-add them

Do you not find the same thing?

Thanks very much

[Vitaliy S.]

Did you create any mapping jobs? If this is the case then you don't need to do that.

[veremin]

I run the surebackup job and it says the restore point is from 10:00

Also, have you tried to use "Start to" option? Does it make any difference? Thanks.

[y1008946]

Hi, I've tried t again and it seems to be working!

Thanks for all your help it works great!


I think the key was in how to create the application group using powershell.

When I started originally I was using a similar way, the powershell command created the application group but it didnt update the restore points each day. This is the powershell command I had used:

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$ibfOibs = (Get-VBRBackup -Name "DC01 Backup Copy to Offsite").GetLastBackupOibs()
Add-VSBApplicationGroup -Name "Test App Group" -RestorePoint $ibfOibs

[veremin]

Glad to hear that now everything works fine. Feel free to ask, if any additional help is needed. Thanks.

[OmiFreak]

Hi,

I also try to use a copy job as source for a SureBackup. I tried the powershell command above but get some errors:

Add-VSBViApplicationGroup –Name “FSR_DEERL” –RestorePoint (Get-VBRRestorePoint -Name emma)


Add-VSBViApplicationGroup : Failed to process RestorePoint 61dd428e-2d2d-4a9c-b4de-73c206180b52. Job type BackupSync
is not supported
At line:1 char:1
+ Add-VSBViApplicationGroup –Name “FSR_DEERL” –RestorePoint (Get-VBRRestorePoint - ...
+ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
+ CategoryInfo : InvalidOperation: (:) [Add-VSBViApplicationGroup], Exception
+ FullyQualifiedErrorId : AddViApplicationGroupId,Veeam.Backup.PowerShell.Command.AddVSBViApplicationGroup

If I try this command:
$ibfOibs = (Get-VBRBackup -Name "DE-ERL_copy").GetLastBackupOibs()

I get:
Method invocation failed because [Veeam.Backup.Core.CBackup] does not contain a method named 'GetLastBackupOibs'.
At line:1 char:1
+ $ibfOibs = (Get-VBRBackup -Name "DE-ERL_copy").GetLastBackupOibs()
+ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
+ CategoryInfo : InvalidOperation: (:) [], RuntimeException
+ FullyQualifiedErrorId : MethodNotFound

I replicate the branch office backup to our headquarter and should verify here some things, verify at the original location is not a option.

Regards,
Bernd

[veremin]

If you're willing to verify backups created by backup copy jobs, kindly, stick to the approach described here. Thanks.

[OmiFreak]

Thank you for the link but this is the approach from Vitaliy I tried (is also on this site).

I think the problem in my case is that I have only one Veeam Backup Server world-wide.
This server is already at the site I want to make the verify.
The backup is from a branch office where I only have a backup proxy installed.
If I now create the application pool with this powershell command:
Add-VSBViApplicationGroup –Name “AG” –RestorePoint (Get-VBRRestorePoint -Name <VM_Name>)
It tries to add every restore point it finds for this VM, from Tape jobs and from the original backup job, which is managed from this backup server as well.
The SureBackup job tries to use then the normal backup job restore point from the WAN location.

Regards,
Bernd

[veremin]

Not sure whether it helps, but you can try to create dummy backup jobs, map them on the files created by backup copy jobs, and then create SureBackup jobs, using the dummy ones. Before running surebackup jobs, you might want to disable backup copy ones temporarily.

[OmiFreak]

Okay I created a dummy backup job with the VM in the branch office and map the job to the backup copy job files in the local repository. I use the dummy backup job as source in the application pool, it looks good because it shows the two VMs in this backup copy job.
But when I start the SureBackup job it fails powering on the VM and in the log file it looks like it still try to use the remote repository in the branch office as source.

[veremin]

Then, I think that stanby backup console deployed at remote site and used mostly for backup copy job verification sounds like the best idea. Thanks.

[DaveVernon]

Not sure whether it helps, but you can try to create dummy backup jobs, map them on the files created by backup copy jobs, and then create SureBackup jobs, using the dummy ones. Before running surebackup jobs, you might want to disable backup copy ones temporarily.

A thousand thank-you's for this! I needed to do a one-of SureBackup to pull some data out of an application that I had to restore from my tape archives. This particular application really needs to run in the SureBackup isolated environment to get the data exported. This suggestions worked perfectly.

[cgranitz]

I would like to consider using the manual method of running SureBackup jobs against our Backup Copy repository that was posted by Vitaliy S. a while ago, but I have some questions...

Can the Veeam B&R console be installed on a Windows 7 VM running on the ESXi host that is being used to run the SureBackup jobs at the Backup Copy site ?

Our repository at that site is a Windows 2012 R2 server running Windows Storage Spaces on JBOD disks. Would it be better to install the Veeam B&R console on that server instead ?

-- ChrisG

[veremin]

Are you backing up VMs running Windows Server 2012 (R2) with Deduplication role enabled? If not, it's up to install a backup server on whatever machine you want, as long as it meets system requirements. Thanks.

[cgranitz]

Yes, I am backing up VMs that are running Windows Server 2012 R2 with the Deduplication role enabled. Does that mean I should install the Veeam B&R console on a Windows 7 VM on the ESXi host that will run the Surebackup jobs at the remote site where the Backup Copy data repository resides ?

[veremin]

In that case you'd better enable Data Deduplication role on your repository and install a backup console on that server, instead of deploying it on Windows 7 VM. Otherwise, file-level restore operations for those VMs are likely to fail. Thanks.

[TheMonk]

Hi there, I used to be able to use the way that is described on the first page of this section. However recently when I try to use a copy job in a surebackup I get the following error:
Error: Operation is not valid due to current state of the object.

Ive checked the backup copy job that produces the copy and the status of that job is idle, so im a bit puzzled? any suggestions?

[Vitaliy S.]

Can you please tell us what changes were made to the infrastructure? Do you have this issue for all jobs/VMs?

[TheMonk]

Can you please tell us what changes were made to the infrastructure? Do you have this issue for all jobs/VMs?

Only thing that has changed is we have moved hosts and new vcenters.

THe time time I get this issues is when trying to run a Surebackup job using a copyjobs backups.

I run the commands mentioned on this post, which re-syncs the jobs, adds the servers to an application group and then when I create and run the surebackup with that application group I get the error.

The backupCopy jobs are in IDLE status.

I know doing surebackups this way isn't supported but obviously was using the workround, mainly because like others I wish to use labs with servers from my various sites for testing purposes etc

[Vek17]

Looking for a way to map a backup to a job via powershell. I haven't come across any mechanism to do this so far, is this something that is possible at all (supported or otherwise).

[bnunez]

Get-VBRBackup objects have multiple attributes which you can use to relate the data. Namely 'JobName' and 'JobID'.

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$backups = Get-VBRBackup
foreach ($backup in $backups) {
        Get-VBRJob | Where-Object {$_.Name -eq $backup.JobName}
}

[Vek17]

Sure and that is simple enough, but was not what I was looking for. Perhaps I was unclear.

I am looking for a way to map a backup to a job to the same effect one would do in the UI, not a way to correlate which backups are linked to what jobs.

[veremin]

Your post has been merged into existing discussion, kindly, check the workaround provided above. Thanks.

[Vek17]

While this thread did not contain any usable workarounds I did end up finding something I can use (Though I need to test more as this is unsupported and can result in breaking changes)

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$SourceBackup.Update($TargetJob)

Where $SouceBackup is the backup you want to map and $TargetJob is the Job that needs to use the backup. Things look good as long as you are using the same directories but get very broken if you swap repos. This will most likely work for the use case I have but I would recommend anyone who may wish to do this to test sufficiently first as this is not a supported solution and will allow you to break things.