Feature Request - Email Report on Success or Fail

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Re: Feature Request - Email Report on Success or Fail

Veeam Logoby frakka » Thu Jan 15, 2015 11:19 am

themenace wrote:Allow configuration of an SMTP server to send email on either success and or fail


+1
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Re: Feature Request - Email Report on Success or Fail

Veeam Logoby travisdhahn » Fri Jan 16, 2015 4:31 pm

This would be a huge help -
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Re: Feature Request - Email Report on Success or Fail

Veeam Logoby Mike Resseler » Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:41 am

For all that want email report...

A quick question... Instead of an SMTP server (because that can be a serious issue when travelling a lot or moving the endpoint on different networks...) what if we use the mail client of an enduser to send it. So he or she would basically get an email from itself to see if it worked or not. Saw a couple of minutes a little program that did this... Don't know how they did it, but it worked, and it would save the end-user from configuring the smtp server...

Let me know

Thanks

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Re: Feature Request - Email Report on Success or Fail

Veeam Logoby blake.dayton » Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:49 pm

Mike Resseler wrote:For all that want email report...

A quick question... Instead of an SMTP server (because that can be a serious issue when travelling a lot or moving the endpoint on different networks...) what if we use the mail client of an enduser to send it. So he or she would basically get an email from itself to see if it worked or not. Saw a couple of minutes a little program that did this... Don't know how they did it, but it worked, and it would save the end-user from configuring the smtp server...

Let me know

Thanks

Mike

Hi Mike,

I think most home users don't have a need for email alerts. The ones who do, are likely technical enough to type "smtp.gmail.com" into a box.

However, I can imagine enterprise users are the ones demanding SMTP alerts the most. Having VEB on a headless server, I'm having to remote in every day to make sure the job ran. I also think that most enterprise users (myself included) are going to balk at needing to install Outlook or Thunderbird on a server. Aside from the resource usage and increased attack surface, you'd still have to type in "smtp.mycompany.com" in the mail client, so you're not really saving any trouble.
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Re: Feature Request - Email Report on Success or Fail

Veeam Logoby scidoner » Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:44 am

blake.dayton wrote:
Mike Resseler wrote:For all that want email report...

A quick question... Instead of an SMTP server (because that can be a serious issue when travelling a lot or moving the endpoint on different networks...) what if we use the mail client of an enduser to send it. So he or she would basically get an email from itself to see if it worked or not. Saw a couple of minutes a little program that did this... Don't know how they did it, but it worked, and it would save the end-user from configuring the smtp server...

Let me know

Thanks

Mike

Hi Mike,

I think most home users don't have a need for email alerts. The ones who do, are likely technical enough to type "smtp.gmail.com" into a box.

However, I can imagine enterprise users are the ones demanding SMTP alerts the most. Having VEB on a headless server, I'm having to remote in every day to make sure the job ran. I also think that most enterprise users (myself included) are going to balk at needing to install Outlook or Thunderbird on a server. Aside from the resource usage and increased attack surface, you'd still have to type in "smtp.mycompany.com" in the mail client, so you're not really saving any trouble.


+1 here.

Also some software I have seen actually have their own SMTP servers on the Internet (PRTG springs to mind) and the software is auto-configured to use those to start with, with the option for the user to specify their own. So this would give the best of both worlds - no configuration needed for non-enterprise, and the option for enterprise users to specify their own SMTP settings.

If you're worried about mail ports being blocked at home (e.g. some ISPs), it would be trivial to set up a web service proxy (secure on SSL, port 443) that VEB would use to transmit messages, which the web service (running at Veeam) would then talk to an SMTP server to send the mail.
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Re: Feature Request - Email Report on Success or Fail

Veeam Logoby ninjaburn81 » Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:14 am

I agree with Blake that it's mostly enterprise users/sysadmins that are requesting email alerts. Tho that is not to say we wouldn't appreciate other options...text msgs, posts to Windows Event Logs, etc. (Those are two examples but both could work regardless of location, a la traveling users.) Most ppl running more than 2-3 servers are running headless so any automated alert system is better than nothing!

Home users really don't need any of that tho. For them, even a pop up from the Veeam icon of the task bar would be sufficient. eBay's app does that when a user is outbid and gives options to bid or dismiss the message. (Yes you have the lil icon change but a lil more info when you hover or right-click would be awesome.)
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Re: Feature Request - Email Report on Success or Fail

Veeam Logoby Mike Resseler » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:54 am

thanks for all the feedback Gents,

This is very much appreciated. I know I start to sound like a "broken record" but don't forget we are building this for the end-users for now :-)

But as always, great thoughts, keep em coming

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Re: Feature Request - Email Report on Success or Fail

Veeam Logoby scidoner » Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:09 pm

Mike Resseler wrote:thanks for all the feedback Gents,

This is very much appreciated. I know I start to sound like a "broken record" but don't forget we are building this for the end-users for now :-)

But as always, great thoughts, keep em coming

Mike


I disagree, especially if you are making GA able to backup to a Veeam backup repository! That is definitely not an end-user thing and is something that would only be used in the enterprise (just like B&R).
With that, email notifications seem like a no-brainer :)
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Re: Feature Request - Email Report on Success or Fail

Veeam Logoby blake.dayton » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:51 pm

scidoner wrote:I disagree, especially if you are making GA able to backup to a Veeam backup repository! That is definitely not an end-user thing and is something that would only be used in the enterprise (just like B&R).
With that, email notifications seem like a no-brainer :)
Yep, tying into an B&R repo is the main reason I'm demoing this software.

If there's a home user who is hardcore enough to have a production vCenter cluster at their house, I want to meet them!
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Re: Feature Request - Email Report on Success or Fail

Veeam Logoby ninjaburn81 » Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:22 pm

blake.dayton wrote:If there's a home user who is hardcore enough to have a production vCenter cluster at their house, I want to meet them!


Well yeah, but really you only need the Veeam Backup Free Edition to create repositories, so the EP should work with those as well...correct? Granted yes, that is still seriously hardcore of a set up, but for a home lab it's perfect. Backup Free for your free ESXi/Hyper-V VMs, and Endpoint for anything physical, all pointing to that off-the-shelf NAS drive you got from NewEgg on Black Friday! ;)

I think it's clear as crystal we are begging for an enterprise (read:paid) version, but we gotta evaluate the version at present and help it cross the v1.0 (or hell 1.5 at this rate) mark. :)
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Re: Feature Request - Email Report on Success or Fail

Veeam Logoby blake.dayton » Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:20 pm

ninjaburn81 wrote:
blake.dayton wrote:If there's a home user who is hardcore enough to have a production vCenter cluster at their house, I want to meet them!


Well yeah, but really you only need the Veeam Backup Free Edition to create repositories, so the EP should work with those as well...correct? Granted yes, that is still seriously hardcore of a set up, but for a home lab it's perfect. Backup Free for your free ESXi/Hyper-V VMs, and Endpoint for anything physical, all pointing to that off-the-shelf NAS drive you got from NewEgg on Black Friday! ;)

I think it's clear as crystal we are begging for an enterprise (read:paid) version, but we gotta evaluate the version at present and help it cross the v1.0 (or hell 1.5 at this rate) mark. :)

I'm pretty sure Veeam Free (VeeamZIP) can't talk to repos, and I know it can't back up free ESXi hosts (I tried :cry:) so you'd be looking at well over a kilobuck to run all that at home!

But anyway, porting B&R's smtp mailer should be trivial, and home users who are confused by the settings will be fine looking at the system tray notifications.
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Re: Feature Request - Email Report on Success or Fail

Veeam Logoby scidoner » Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:44 am

blake.dayton wrote:
scidoner wrote:I disagree, especially if you are making GA able to backup to a Veeam backup repository! That is definitely not an end-user thing and is something that would only be used in the enterprise (just like B&R).
With that, email notifications seem like a no-brainer :)
Yep, tying into an B&R repo is the main reason I'm demoing this software.

If there's a home user who is hardcore enough to have a production vCenter cluster at their house, I want to meet them!


Well that would be me, but I think you mean differently "home user" :P
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Re: Feature Request - Email Report on Success or Fail

Veeam Logoby ninjaburn81 » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:10 am

*facepalm* you are right about the repositories. I haven't touched VeeamZIP in a loooong time so I forgot. But I said VMs, not hosts to the other point.

Either way my original point is to consider other options rather than an SMTP mail option...sometging that would work best for home use, but play nice at the enterprise level too.

Oh and I'm stopping by scidoner's place...if that's their home lab I wanna see the kit for watching sports! :D
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[MERGED] Email Alerts for Success/Fail

Veeam Logoby joel@redwoodit.com » Thu Feb 05, 2015 2:29 pm

Would love to see some SMTP options to send email alerts on backups status/success/fails for endpoints
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Re: Feature Request - Email Report on Success or Fail

Veeam Logoby VAXman65 » Wed Feb 18, 2015 1:48 pm

Another vote for email notification of events.

I have been using Norton Ghost across the different clients I support at home (and at my parents' home). That product has an email notification facility that can send an email at backup job start, at the start of backup for each volume, at the end of job and separate notifications as it prunes away the older backups falling out of retention policy. I set up my environment such that I have a single email address that all the notifications go to and I get a de facto backup report each morning to read on my iPad through the mail.
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