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Different schedule for incr vs full disk backups

Veeam Logoby Justin99 » Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:24 am

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Because of the length of our full backup to disk job, I want to start this earlier on the weekend than the incremental that runs in the week. I tried the following:

1. Created two separate backup to disk jobs pointing to the same backup repository
2. On the active full job specify perform full backups on selected day ie. saturday. Schedule this job to run at 6pm on Saturdays.
3. On the incremental job specify the job to run at 11pm. Schedule this job to run at 11pm everyday, except Saturdays.

The issue on point number 3 is that I want to deselect all days for the full backup as not to clash with the other full backup job but of course I cannot do so as the incremental job wants 1 full backup day selected.

Therefore my question is:
Is it possible to have different times for full vs incremental disk backup jobs?
If it is somehow possible by setting up 2 backup jobs above, does this break the "backup chain" of Veeam as there are two different jobs in place?
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Re: Different schedule for incr vs full disk backups

Veeam Logoby v.Eremin » Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:42 am

Hi, Justin. There is no need to have two different jobs. Instead, you can write a simple PS script that will initiate job start and schedule this script via Windows Scheduler to run on Saturdays at whatever time you want.

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Get-VBRJob -name "Name of your Backup Job" | Start-VBRJob -FullBackup


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Re: Different schedule for incr vs full disk backups

Veeam Logoby foggy » Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:14 am

Justin99 wrote:If it is somehow possible by setting up 2 backup jobs above, does this break the "backup chain" of Veeam as there are two different jobs in place?

Each backup job creates its own backup chain, it is not possible to have two jobs managing a single backup chain.
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Re: Different schedule for incr vs full disk backups

Veeam Logoby Justin99 » Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:39 am

Thank you. Ok that clears up the backup chain query and I will implement the powershell script as well. I presume as the job is already running at the earlier time, it wont attempt to start another instance when the normal schedule kicks in.
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Re: Different schedule for incr vs full disk backups

Veeam Logoby v.Eremin » Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:50 am

Yes. If this day is scheduled for full backup, and full backup has been already performed earlier this day, backup job won’t try to create anything, when the schedule kicks in.

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[MERGED] Creating a job with multiple schedule

Veeam Logoby marius roma » Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:19 am

I need to create a job with different schedule along the week; the job should run at 2:00AM on Monday to Fryday and at 11:00AM during the weekend.
A possiuble solutions is creating two jobs, but I suspect I double the used space on the repository, loose advantages of deduplication, and if I add or remove a VM on one of the jobs I must ensure I make the same on the other one...
Is there any smarter solution?
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Re: Creating a job with multiple schedule

Veeam Logoby Lewpy » Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:31 am 1 person likes this post

There is no way to schedule a single job to have multiple schedules from within the Veeam GUI.
There are two solutions I can think of

1) Use a deduplication appliance (or Windows 2012 Server running deduplication) as the target for your Veeam Repository, as then backup data will be deduplicated across all jobs and having multiple jobs will not impact your backup storage space
2) Use Veeam's PowerShell interface to re-schedule the backup job dynamically. This way you could switch the scheduling at the weekend, and then switch it back for the weekdays.

(1) is potentially expensive, as it will be altering your Backup solution.
(2) has potential risk if the external script goes wrong and your backup is mis-scheduled.
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Re: Different schedule for incr vs full disk backups

Veeam Logoby foggy » Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:15 am

Above you can find an example of the script that could be used to address your scenario. However, to avoid confusion and correct Vladimir's reply a bit, it should be noted that even being triggered via script earlier, the job will still start according to its normal schedule and will produce regular increment.
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[MERGED] Feature Request: Daily Schedule Time Difference

Veeam Logoby electricd7 » Wed Dec 18, 2013 2:29 pm

Hello,

We run Veeam in a banking environment in which we want to run the same job at 8PM on M-F but at 2PM (because they close earlier) on Saturday and Sunday. I know I could create a second "weekend" job, but that would lead to more data storage of the same machines. It would be helpful if we could adjust the job start time for each day the job is scheduled to run. Thanks.

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Re: Different schedule for incr vs full disk backups

Veeam Logoby foggy » Wed Dec 18, 2013 3:20 pm

Chad, thanks for the feedback. Please review this thread for the hint on how to address this scenario with the current version. Thanks.
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[MERGED] 2 Backup at officedays Incremental. Weekend only 1

Veeam Logoby Backupper » Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:18 am

Currently we backup all the VM’s with VEEAM, at 20:00.
On Monday until Friday we do an Incremental backup.
Every Saturday we do a Full backup.
Sunday we don’t do any kind of backup.

This above work. Here what we want:

What we would like to change, is that the backup jobs run exactly the same as right now but we want to add one time.
From Monday until Friday we want to keep doing Incremental Backups at 20:00. But we also want to do one at 12:00.
We do not want to do is in the weekend days.

We don’t know how to create 2 times a day to create an incremental backup. Can you help us?
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Re: Different schedule for incr vs full disk backups

Veeam Logoby foggy » Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:23 am

You can achieve this with the help of PS script scheduled via Windows Scheduler. Please review this thread for details.
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Re: Different schedule for incr vs full disk backups

Veeam Logoby chrisBrindley » Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:41 pm

Can this be put into a feature request?
The more VM servers I backup the longer the full backup is taking, I need the capability of running fulls over the weekend a lot earlier that the regular job starts.
And I know there are power shell scripts to do this, but I have thousands of servers and hundreds of jobs, keeping track of the power shell scripts and then the understanding that the power shell just invokes the job earlier but it still runs at the regular schedule isn't a solutions, its a bandaid.

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Re: Different schedule for incr vs full disk backups

Veeam Logoby foggy » Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:54 pm

chrisBrindley wrote:Can this be put into a feature request?

Sure, thanks for the feedback!
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Re: Different schedule for incr vs full disk backups

Veeam Logoby Backupper » Thu May 15, 2014 10:19 am

Foggy,

Could you explain me how i do that via PS?
Or well it is explained?

I find it hard to find any kind of documentation for Veeam, it works briljantly until you want to change something.
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