[VCSA] Any recommendation for a backup/replica job?

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[VCSA] Any recommendation for a backup/replica job?

Veeam Logoby maxfontana » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:30 pm

Hi.
I've recently switched from Vcenter 4.1 to Vcenter Server virtual appliance based as you know on a linux distro.
I'm recreating all my jobs and would like you to give me some advices on how to best configure my replica and backup jobs for this vm.
Should the Vmware tool quiescence be enabled or not?
A always, many thanks in advance.
Best regards.
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Re: [vcsa 5] Any recommendation for a backup/replica job?

Veeam Logoby Vitaliy S. » Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:29 pm

Hi Max,

Generally speaking my recommendation would be to use VMware Tools Quiescence for every non-Windows VM to keep it in transaction consistent state. As to other tips and tricks, then please search these forums for more info about vCenter Server (Windows box) backup job configuration, as these guidelines can still be applied to your scenario.

Hope this helps!
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[MERGED] Using Veeam to Backup VCSA

Veeam Logoby pendragoncrw » Sat Nov 10, 2012 5:28 pm

We have started exploring the vCenter appliance (most of our installs are 4.1 so they have vCenter on a windows server) for some selective use with our smaller clients. Before I jump into it though, I wanted to find out what specific considerations need to be taken to back it up using Veeam aside from using a different proxy than the vCenter appliance itself. Are there some special scripts that should be run? Do we need to disable the VMWare tools quiesece?

My experience with the appliance in the past (initial 5.0 release, initial 5.1 release) were very hit-or-miss so I don't want to just toss it in a backup job and see what happens.

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Re: [vcsa 5] Any recommendation for a backup/replica job?

Veeam Logoby Vitaliy S. » Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:52 am

There are no special scripts that should be used to backup a VCSA, just make sure you add it to the backup job through the standalone ESX(i) server connection. Thanks!
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[MERGED] Backup vCenter Appliance

Veeam Logoby Simonx182 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:22 am

Hi,

I have a general question about backing up the vCenter Appliance itself. I've searched around in this forum but couldn't find the answer that I needed.

We are running on our customer installations vCenter as Appliance which is stored on the SAN Storage and run daily backups with Veeam of all VM's to a NAS storage.
What happens in a disaster situation if the whole SAN Storage fails? Will I need to install a new vCenter to be able to restore the VM's successfully?
How do I safe my vCenter Appliance from that? Is there a way to "copy" the vmdk Data Files to lets say a local storage on a ESX Host?

I hope you can understand what I mean. In a disaster situation I want to be able to restore the system as fast as possible, withour reinstall the whole vCenter.

Thank you very much.

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Re: Backup vCenter Appliance

Veeam Logoby tsightler » Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:55 am 1 person likes this post

You can just add an ESXi host directly to Veeam and then restore vCenter directly to the host. Once that's done you can boot up vCenter, make any adjustments, for example by removing/readding any rebuilt hosts, then start restoring other VMs. Of course, there may also be other VMs that are critical before you start vCenter (DNS/AD, etc.), but once again you could restore all of them directly to any ESXi hosts and then go from there.

For small/mid-sized deployments I don't even really consider vCenter all that important since it's really part of the infrastructure. I'd normally say most companies are more concerned with getting their business focused systems up and running so you could always just add multiple ESXi hosts directly to Veeam and restore all of your critical VMs quicky, then worry about vCenter later. It's really up to you, but Veeam is flexible enough that it doesn't really matter.

Of course, since you have Veeam, and you mention having local ESX host storage, another great option is to use Veeam replication to replicate those VMs to local storage, that way you don't even have to restore those systems, just failover/power on their replicas from the local storage.
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Re: Backup vCenter Appliance

Veeam Logoby Simonx182 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:00 am

Thank you for your fast reply. Didn't know that.

Now last question to comlete this: What is the fastest way to make this restore Operation (vCenter Backup -> Local Storage)? Let's say the complete infrastrucure is down (after SAN outage) and I have no physical Server. Can I also use a small tool on my Notebook to do the restore Operation? Or do I have to install the full Veeam Product?
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Re: Backup vCenter Appliance

Veeam Logoby v.Eremin » Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:04 am 1 person likes this post

Hi, Simon. You can install a new backup server, then, import required backup file and run a restore operation. Otherwise, you can put into use our standalone utility named extract.exe that goes with every product installation. With extract utility you will be able to restore VMs without install Veeam backup console.

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Re: Backup vCenter Appliance

Veeam Logoby Simonx182 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:21 pm

Thank you very much for this informations. I tried the extract.exe today. Worked perfectly.
All clear. No need for a extra backup of the vCenter.

Thank you guys for the fast responses.

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Re: Backup vCenter Appliance

Veeam Logoby m.novelli » Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:04 am

Hi guys, one quick question: with Veeam Backup 7 can I safely backup the vCenter Appliance 5.1 itself? I've checked "enable tools quiescence" and "disable application processing" for that VM

The Veeam Backup is connected only by LAN to the VMware Infrastructure, but looking the Job logs I can see that Veeam try SAN mode first

1/15/2014 9:57:03 AM :: Saving [VMWARE1 LUN1] vCenter 5.1/vCenter 5.1.vmx
1/15/2014 9:57:03 AM :: Saving [VMWARE1 LUN1] vCenter 5.1/vCenter 5.1.vmxf
1/15/2014 9:57:03 AM :: Saving [VMWARE1 LUN1] vCenter 5.1/vCenter 5.1.nvram
1/15/2014 9:57:04 AM :: Using backup proxy VMware Backup Proxy for disk Hard disk 1 [san]
1/15/2014 9:57:04 AM :: Using backup proxy VMware Backup Proxy for disk Hard disk 2 [san]
1/15/2014 9:57:04 AM :: Hard disk 2 (100.0 GB)
1/15/2014 9:57:04 AM :: Hard disk 1 (25.0 GB)
1/15/2014 9:57:07 AM :: Unable to establish direct connection to the shared storage (SAN).
Please ensure that:
- HBA is properly installed in the Veeam Backup server computer, or software iSCSI initiator is configured correctly.
- SAN volume can be seen by operating system in the Windows Disk Management snap-in on the Veeam Backup server.
- Read access is allowed for the Veeam Backup server computer on the corresponding LUN (refer to your SAN documentation).

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Re: Backup vCenter Appliance

Veeam Logoby foggy » Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:58 am

m.novelli wrote:Hi guys, one quick question: with Veeam Backup 7 can I safely backup the vCenter Appliance 5.1 itself?

Yes, you can, however this is not related to the issue you're seeing with transport mode selection. For some reason, Veeam B&R assumes that SAN mode is available (probably iSCSI Software Initiator is installed and configured). Btw, do you have failover to network mode enabled?
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Re: Backup vCenter Appliance

Veeam Logoby m.novelli » Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:18 am

Yes, Veeam Backup fail to network mode with success

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[MERGED] Best practice for backup of vCSA 5.5 ?

Veeam Logoby btniko » Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:00 pm

Hi -

Is there any Veeam best practice for backup of VMware vCenter Appliance 5.5 with embedded Postgre db ?

Kind r

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Re: [vcsa 5] Any recommendation for a backup/replica job?

Veeam Logoby Vitaliy S. » Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:57 pm

VMware has a KB article describing how to backup VCSA database via built-in functionality, however if you want to backup it with Veeam I assume the recommendation should be the same as I have described above.
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Re: [vcsa 5] Any recommendation for a backup/replica job?

Veeam Logoby dellock6 » Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:10 am

Vitaliy, since VBR 7 with latest patches is able to backup vCenter without needing anymore the "direct ESXi connection" workaround, maybe also VCSA can be backed up directly as any other VM? Also, the problem was about the SQL server of vCenter, but CSA does not uses MS SQL...

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