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Cannot Create Application-consistent snapshot(BfSS)

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Hi,

If we use storage snapshot only job, Veeam create Application-consistent snapshot.
However if we use BfSS(backup to repository and set primary storage snapshot as secondary backup destination) job, Veeam create Crash-consistent snapshot.
Both jobs are enabled VMware Tools quiescence.
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Is this a specification?

And Veeam does not handle VMware snapshots when performing Instant VM Recovery from Crash-consistent snapshot.
As a result, a temporary Veeam snapshot(created by backup job) will be remained on recovered VM.
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This snapshot is very annoying as it also affects the migration.

Support case is Case #04281499.

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Re: Cannot Create Application-consistent snapshot(BfSS)

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Hello,
the "crash-consistent label" looks like a UI issue to me. Support should be able to verify that.

For the VM snapshot: it must be there. That's how it is described in the user guide (https://helpcenter.veeam.com/docs/backu ... ml?ver=100)
1. create VM snapshot
2. create storage snapshot
3. delete VM snapshot

As you probably already found out, the migration works if you delete the VM snapshot manually.

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Re: Cannot Create Application-consistent snapshot(BfSS)

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Hi,

It is not UI issue.

When I look at the Instant VM Recovery logs it shows that it is crash-consistent.
Restore from VeeamSourceSnapshot-Nimble-Storage-Snapshot-And-Repository.2020-07-14-1322
[14.07.2020 13:30:00] <01> Info [San] Check if application-consistent restore VM 'C8' allowed.
[14.07.2020 13:30:00] <01> Info VM 'C8' state in storage snapshot 'ESanSnapshotCrashConsistent'

Restore from VeeamSourceSnapshot-Nimble-Storage-Snapshot-Only.2020-07-14-1319
[14.07.2020 15:57:45] <01> Info [San] Check if application-consistent restore VM 'C8' allowed.
[14.07.2020 15:57:45] <01> Info VM 'C8' state in storage snapshot 'EVeeamSnapshot'

After instant VM recovery, need we manually revert to a VM snapshot and delete it?
How can I make an Application-consistent snapshot?

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Yukinobu Asami
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Re: Cannot Create Application-consistent snapshot(BfSS)

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I think this is correct. Why don´t you use the Veeam Guest processing instead of the VMware tools quiescense?
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Re: Cannot Create Application-consistent snapshot(BfSS)

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Hello,
first of all: We recommend Application aware processing over VMware tools quiescing (I only have a Linux VM in my lab. switching to Veeam AAIP does not change the crash-consistent UI output).

Support needs to check, whether it's a real issue, or a UI issue.

The forum does not replace support: veeam-backup-replication-f2/rules-of-po ... -t755.html

No, I did not revert the snapshot. I just deleted the snapshot before migration.

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Re: Cannot Create Application-consistent snapshot(BfSS)

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It is a known limitation. So Veeam own Guest processing (Application Aware processing) is the way to go.
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Re: Cannot Create Application-consistent snapshot(BfSS)

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Because this VM is Cent OS 8.
And, now I tested Windows VM with enabled Veeam AAIP, it was same result.
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When restoring from the storage snapshot retained by BfSS job, Veeam seems to restore with Crash-consistent.
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Re: Cannot Create Application-consistent snapshot(BfSS)

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I think it is time to open a support case and share the number here. Support can have a look at the logs and we can follow up here.
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Re: Cannot Create Application-consistent snapshot(BfSS)

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Hi Yukinobu, this looks similar to this known issue. It is addressed in the upcoming 10ua update. Thanks!
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Re: Cannot Create Application-consistent snapshot(BfSS)

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Hi foggy,

Thank you for info!
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