Feature request: NetApp NDMP support

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Re: Feature request: NetApp NDMP support

Veeam Logoby robinhollins » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:19 pm 1 person likes this post

Massive benefit for us on NDMP or any increased CIFS support.
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Re: Feature request: NetApp NDMP support

Veeam Logoby phillbl » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:08 am 1 person likes this post

as above, this would greatly enhance veeam as a backup solution for us.

+1 for ndmp please
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Re: Feature request: NetApp NDMP support

Veeam Logoby ironludo » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:21 am

Hi all
+1 for NDMP feature
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Re: Feature request: NetApp NDMP support

Veeam Logoby Dima P. » Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:26 pm

Guys,

Please do not forget to include the storage you would like to backup via NDMP from. Thanks!
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Re: Feature request: NetApp NDMP support

Veeam Logoby marc.rousseau » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:36 pm

Hi all
+1 for NDMP feature (Netapp)
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Re: Feature request: NetApp NDMP suppoemvrt

Veeam Logoby phillbl » Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:53 am

emc vnx, datadomain and emc unity for me please
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Re: Feature request: NetApp NDMP support

Veeam Logoby phillbl » Sat Jun 03, 2017 12:05 pm

will version 10 have the ability to backup cifs using NDMP?
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Re: Feature request: NetApp NDMP support

Veeam Logoby v.Eremin » Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:46 am

Version 10 will bring backup support for SMB and NFS Shares (NAS backup). Cannot make any comments regarding NDMP at the moment, though.
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Re: Feature request: NetApp NDMP support

Veeam Logoby einhirn » Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:49 pm

Just to add my 2ct, NDMP has different use cases. It can be

- using a (NetApp)-filer as a kind of "tape server" - backup software uses tape drives (and maybe even libraries?) connected to the filer as target for external data;
- backing up data from a filer to filer-attached Tape drives - backup software only as control instance, backup server is not in the data path.
- backing up data from a filer to backup server attached tape library and drives (aka. 3-way-NDMP).

One main goodie for NDMP backup is that file system meta data will be backed up so it can be restored as it was. With CIFS or NFS there always seems to be some kind of meta data loss during transit.
Depending on how well NDMP is implemented on the filer and on the side of the backup software, it might even have something similar to "CBT" to enable "forever incremental" in a timely fashion - I don't know how you'll achieve that with direct backup of CIFS or NFS share.

I'm seeing people moving away from NDMP backups because the amount of data stored in a filer (we have a 'small' Isilon cluster with about 150TB and billions of files) makes it unfeasible. We can't possibly meet any sensible RPO or even RTO, because incremental backups take up a lot of time for treewalks (which files have changed), and even though full backup are actually faster, you can only write about 130Mb/s to one LTO5 drive, so it almost always takes too long for a backup to finish.

To paraphrase a famous quote: "NDMP is the worst form of backup, except for all others that have been tried". It would be great to have Veeam support NDMP, because from my experience Veeam works great, which could mean that Veeam's implementation of NDMP also might be great...
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Re: Feature request: NetApp NDMP support

Veeam Logoby plandata_at » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:47 am

just q quick note: we are using vmware App Volume Manager, and this products writes vmdk files on a vmware datastore, but this vmdk files are NOT a virtual machine you can see in vcenter.
So we are not able to backup that in the moment, So this feauture request gets much more important!!
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