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[MERGED] GFS - Weekly Backup question

Veeam Logoby wolflord » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:10 pm

Hi All,

I am attempting to implement GFS on some of my VM backups. Although I've read some of the documentation/KB articles, I am a little confused on how weekly backups work..and if they work the way I think they do.

Do weekly backups keep multiple restore points within them? For example, I configured the backup copy job to have 4 weekly backups. If I wanted to restore a file on Tuesday of Weekly backup #2, would I be able to drill down to this level? Do the weekly backups allow us to narrow down to everyday of that week? If it doesn't work that way, what exactly do the Weekly backups offer?

The idea of us implementing GFS is so we could go back a year from a file level or VM level.

These are my current Backup Copy Job Settings:

Restore Points to keep: 7
Weekly Backup : 4
Monthly : 12
Quarterly : 1
Yearly : 1
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Re: GFS Retention Policy

Veeam Logoby Shestakov » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:42 pm

Weekly backup contains only 1 restore point with the most recent VM state to that day. It doesn`t contain the whole chain of restore points.
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Re: GFS Retention Policy

Veeam Logoby wolflord » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:51 pm

So what exactly are weekly backups used for? They are just full backups of the VM that day?
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Re: GFS Retention Policy

Veeam Logoby foggy » Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:04 am

Correct, each GFS restore point contains a single VM state for the corresponding date.
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Re: GFS Retention Policy

Veeam Logoby Shestakov » Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:13 pm

And if there was no backup that day, the full backup will contain data of the previous backup.
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[Merged] Weekly/Monthly backups

Veeam Logoby amitshmil » Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:05 am

Hi,I'm trying to accomplice a simple task in Veeam 9.0:
I need to create a weekly/monthly backup to disk and take it to tape .
I kind of lost with all the backups methods.what is the simple solution for creating this task?

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Re: GFS Retention Policy

Veeam Logoby Shestakov » Sun Mar 05, 2017 5:17 pm

Hi amitshmil and welcome to the community!
You need to leverage backup copy GFS and tape GFS jobs. Please review the topic for more information.
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Re: GFS Retention Policy

Veeam Logoby anbj01 » Mon Mar 06, 2017 1:21 pm

Hi !

We have two different datacenters and want to keep our backup on both sites with this settings :

Restore Points to keep: 30
Weekly Backup : 4
Monthly : 12

What is the best way to set this up ?
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Re: GFS Retention Policy

Veeam Logoby DGrinev » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:31 pm

Hi Andreas,

Please can you provide more information about your scenario?
If i got it right, you want to copy backups from one Datacenter to another?
If that's the case, then you can set up Backup Copy Job with GFS Retention policy and choose the backup job as a source.

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Re: GFS Retention Policy

Veeam Logoby wolflord » Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:17 pm

What happens if a regular Backup Job is still running when a GFS copy job is set to start?

Will the GFS copy job wait until the backup job is completely finished and then start the copy process..or will it begin copying an unfinished backup file?

If it begins copying an unfinished back up file..will this cause the GFS copy job retention point to essentially be unusable?
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Re: GFS Retention Policy

Veeam Logoby johan.h » Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:35 pm 1 person likes this post

It should wait for the job to finish. https://bp.veeam.expert/job_configurati ... y_job.html
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Re: GFS Retention Policy

Veeam Logoby blithespirit » Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:56 pm 2 people like this post

Set the GFS Backup Copy Job as a secondary job to your main backup (in the BCJ wizard use the job as source, or edit the main backup job and on the storage page select the secondary check box), that way it will run after the backup finishes each time without having to work out new schedules or miss backups.
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Re: GFS Retention Policy

Veeam Logoby wolflord » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:18 pm

blithespirit wrote:Set the GFS Backup Copy Job as a secondary job to your main backup (in the BCJ wizard use the job as source, or edit the main backup job and on the storage page select the secondary check box), that way it will run after the backup finishes each time without having to work out new schedules or miss backups.


Thanks for the suggestion, this is great!

Question...when setting up the secondary storage (on the main backup) to point to the GFS backup copy job, will it ignore the 'Copy Every X day starting At' setting on the BCJ?

I'm just wondering how the secondary job setting will interact with the 'Copy Every' setting in the GFS job
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Re: GFS Retention Policy

Veeam Logoby blithespirit » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:27 pm 1 person likes this post

yes, you are right.

What it will do is run after the primary job and check its own criteria to do anything, which is what the run everyday does anyway.

it will still follow your schedule in GFS such as: check for rules to run with, Monday- Friday = regular restore point, Saturday = do nothing, Sunday do regular weekly as part of GFS, monthly do GFS plan etc.........
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Re: GFS Retention Policy

Veeam Logoby wolflord » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:35 pm

Awesome! Exactly what I need. Thanks so much!!
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