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Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work

Post by jazzoberoi » Mar 01, 2015 5:47 am

+1 : Granular file restore for me, but happy with single VM restore also.

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Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work

Post by ddayton » Mar 02, 2015 3:48 pm

+1. Granular file restore would be my vote as well. I have never needed a VM restore yet from disk or from tape storage. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones.

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Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work

Post by sibinsam » Mar 02, 2015 3:50 pm

Will this feature be included in patch 2?

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Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work

Post by v.Eremin » Mar 02, 2015 3:52 pm

I think Dmitry was talking more about potential features for one of the next releases, rather than patches.

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Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work

Post by seadave » Mar 03, 2015 12:07 am

Both of these options should be available. At the very least allow a single VMDK (some of us with multi-2TB VMDK VMs) to be restored and then mounted to retrieve the file, but the entire job only indicates a lack viewing this from the user perspective. If the current situation remains, the system should be monitoring the BR and should alert the user to the fact that they will NOT be able to restore job X via tape because there isn't enough free space. That could cause a major crap storm for someone during their hour(s) of need.

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Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work

Post by martin_nz » Mar 04, 2015 8:13 pm

Granular restore off tape would be fantastic.

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Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work

Post by 20100 » Mar 05, 2015 8:40 pm

Please add to me too.
Priority for me would be VM first, and then granular file restore. Whatever is easiest and released quickly. Either is better than the full tape restore as per now

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Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work

Post by jacob.estrin » Mar 08, 2015 9:25 pm

My Preference would also be granular file level restore if possible (Guest OS Files that is).

I would not scoff at vm restore mind you...

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Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work

Post by Meyercord » Mar 10, 2015 2:07 pm 1 person likes this post

In day-to-day operations, it's much more common for me to need recovery of a single file or folder than a full VM; however those requests are typically pretty low priority. In a disaster event, its more likely that a full VM or multiple VMs would be required. In either case, recovery direct from tape would be very important for many reasons, including the time and cost to download a complete backup set from a VTL cloud archive compared to downloading just the minimum required media, as well as the disk space required to first restore the entire backup to disk. In a disaster event, when we are operating on minimal resources, our available storage is likely to be especially limited.

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Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work

Post by actiefnet » Mar 11, 2015 6:36 am

Is there any expectation on when this will be available? Proposing VEAAM to several new customers, but they probably won't accept without this feature. Not having it makes tape support useless in a lot of cases.

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Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work

Post by v.Eremin » Mar 11, 2015 9:58 am

We do not publish our roadmap. But should this feature be implemented, it would be included in a major release, rather than just in a patch due to the amount of changes needed. Thanks.

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Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work

Post by AaronD » Mar 13, 2015 2:58 pm

PenguinSSH wrote:+1 too here. We've got several big file server that we archive to tape. Restoring a single 5TB VDK for for a couple of files complicates the restore procedures a lot.
+1 for file

We have ran into this situation before. Needed to restore one file from our fileserver but first had to restore a 1TB vbk. Really increases the recovery time.

Same thing with our 2TB SQL server. Plus we need to ensure we have 2TB free space to restore the vbk when really we just need to restore a 50GB mdf.

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Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work

Post by Dima P. » Mar 13, 2015 10:12 pm

AaronD,
Thank you for sharing. By the way, have you considered backing up a file server data directly via file to tape job?

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Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work

Post by sims » Mar 27, 2015 10:45 am

+1 too here. I've got a big file server that we archive to tape. I need to restore 1.5TB for restoring one files ...

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Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work

Post by PenguinSSH » Mar 27, 2015 2:04 pm

d.popov wrote:AaronD,
Thank you for sharing. By the way, have you considered backing up a file server data directly via file to tape job?
I know you were speaking to AaronD, but considering the performance of file to tape job, this would not be possible for us. It looks like a perfect solution in theory but doesn't really scale.

-Millions on small files so slow copy
-Doesn't backup permissions

In the case of a disaster, we would need these permissions back.

EDIT: On top of this, we would need a copy on disk and 2 copies on tape. One retained onsite and the other offsite.

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