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Any closer to an ETA for Veeam v10 ?

Post by SteeleTek » Oct 04, 2017 3:41 pm

Greetings,

I read estimates of late 2017 or early 2018 for Veeam v10. Since we're now in Q4 2017, is there any "unofficial" ETA for v10?

Thanks!!

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Re: Any closer to an ETA for Veeam v10 ?

Post by mkretzer » Oct 05, 2017 4:36 am

I wonder why there are no new infos about new features? With 9.5 the closer we got to release the more information about new features came out...

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Re: Any closer to an ETA for Veeam v10 ?

Post by Gostev » Oct 06, 2017 4:22 pm 8 people like this post

Hi, all

It is best not to think about v10 as a single huge release as we had historically, because we're in the process of switching to the new development model similar to the current Windows development model, with periodic feature rich updates. For example, we will deliver a big part of "v10" features in the upcoming 9.5 Update 3, then even more "v10" features in 9.5 Update 4, etc. So the build that will eventually carry "v10" version (if we even have versions still) may actually only add one or two remaining features, with the rest of the announced features already introduced in the previous updates.

The primary reason is that with the amount of features we're building at the same time these days (thanks to the development team size), it is really hard to time them to the given major release without having some features holding other for half a year or more due to varying feature complexity.

Another reason is that our legacy approach with fixed yearly release cycle really constrained our innovation and made it impossible to jump new cool ideas "on the fly". But the new approach will give us ability, for example, to add a few simple but very innovative features that we've just came up with recently, based on the feedback and some market shifts of the past months, right in the immediate updates.

Of course, we will see how is it going to work for us and our customers, and revise this new paradigm as needed. However, those of you who watched B&R development closely, probably noticed how we have been moving to this model in the past couple of years already, with every B&R update becoming more and more feature rich. This approach with periodic incremental enhancements was very well received by our customer base because it also helps from reliability perspective, by containing the introduced changes to only a part of the product functionality, by allowing us to quickly address pressing support issues with a public update, etc.

Thanks!

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Re: Any closer to an ETA for Veeam v10 ?

Post by StuartW_D » Oct 09, 2017 5:31 am

Aah Gostev, now you have me wondering when Update 3 is coming and what will be included.... haha,

There are some critical features in v10 which I really need, such as NAS backup and the Central Management for Physical backup (I mean the configure backup selections etc). Hence why I am ( and I am sure many others ) are really excited about.

So any bait you can feed us in terms of Update 3? I have heard of it, but not much about it, that I have seen

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Re: Any closer to an ETA for Veeam v10 ?

Post by Gostev » Oct 09, 2017 12:11 pm 2 people like this post

Centralized management for physical backup is in fact a part of Update 3... which is feature complete now and we're going through the remaining bugs, so we're talking just a few weeks until RTM now.

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Re: Any closer to an ETA for Veeam v10 ?

Post by Anders » Oct 09, 2017 1:34 pm 1 person likes this post

With this new "agile" Development cycle, will it affect the way certifications work and renewal of it (I'm thinking VMCE)?

There is going to be alot of features in 9.5 Update 4, that I didnt learn about on my 9.0 VMCE course....

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Re: Any closer to an ETA for Veeam v10 ?

Post by ferrus » Oct 09, 2017 1:56 pm

Sounds very promising.
Hope the IBM Storwize integration, makes it into the earlier release.

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Re: Any closer to an ETA for Veeam v10 ?

Post by StuartW_D » Oct 09, 2017 3:19 pm 1 person likes this post

@Gostev, now we are talking :wink: thanks for the insight, definitely going to help me

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Re: Any closer to an ETA for Veeam v10 ?

Post by Gostev » Oct 09, 2017 3:47 pm 1 person likes this post

ferrus wrote:Sounds very promising.
Hope the IBM Storwize integration, makes it into the earlier release.
Yes, IBM Storwize integration is also a part of Update 3. And remember that this integration is not limited to Storwize only - it works with any SVC-based storage, including Lenovo models and SVC installed on general-purpose servers from IBM HCL.

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Re: Any closer to an ETA for Veeam v10 ?

Post by nitramd » Oct 10, 2017 3:35 pm

Gostev wrote:Centralized management for physical backup is in fact a part of Update 3... which is feature complete now and we're going through the remaining bugs, so we're talking just a few weeks until RTM now.
@Gostev, a thousand thank yous for making centralized management for physical backup a part of Update 3 - very much looking forward to it. :D

Are you able provide any status on Journaling, i.e. which update or release?

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Re: Any closer to an ETA for Veeam v10 ?

Post by wa15 » Oct 10, 2017 6:08 pm

Just tossing my 2 cents in as well: very much looking forward to a proper NAS backup solution in v10. That's what's preventing us from fully dumping Commvault and going to Veeam. Looking forward to it!

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Re: Any closer to an ETA for Veeam v10 ?

Post by StuartW_D » Oct 11, 2017 4:52 am

wa15 wrote:Just tossing my 2 cents in as well: very much looking forward to a proper NAS backup solution in v10. That's what's preventing us from fully dumping Commvault and going to Veeam. Looking forward to it!
+1 on this. I basically have an old Backup Exec sitting around just to handle our physicals and NAS storage.... But Ill take what I can for now :) Look forward to this release.

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Re: Any closer to an ETA for Veeam v10 ?

Post by paul » Oct 12, 2017 6:46 pm

Any news on failover cluster support? We have a few and this is basically the last thing in my environment that I cannot backup with Veeam!!

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Re: Any closer to an ETA for Veeam v10 ?

Post by Gostev » Oct 12, 2017 6:53 pm

Failover cluster support is also a part of Update 3. Yep, it's going to be pretty huge release for an update :D

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Re: Any closer to an ETA for Veeam v10 ?

Post by gurneetech » Oct 16, 2017 1:26 pm

Gostev wrote:Failover cluster support is also a part of Update 3. Yep, it's going to be pretty huge release for an update :D
This is good news! We're a small shop, but this will be big for us. Thanks for the insight!

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Re: Any closer to an ETA for Veeam v10 ?

Post by wa15 » Oct 16, 2017 6:28 pm

Any chance of NAS backup also being included in v9.5 U3? Okay, sorry, asking for too much now :D

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Re: Any closer to an ETA for Veeam v10 ?

Post by Gostev » Oct 16, 2017 7:15 pm

No, it's further away.

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Re: Any closer to an ETA for Veeam v10 ?

Post by Ctek » Oct 16, 2017 8:36 pm 1 person likes this post

Anders wrote:With this new "agile" Development cycle, will it affect the way certifications work and renewal of it (I'm thinking VMCE)?

There is going to be alot of features in 9.5 Update 4, that I didnt learn about on my 9.0 VMCE course....
I'm very interested to know this as well.
VMCE 9 Certified - Systems Administrator

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Re: Any closer to an ETA for Veeam v10 ?

Post by GrayMan » Oct 31, 2017 3:28 pm

Hi, can you tell us if the handling of SQL Availability groups, avoiding VSS unfreeze errors on the standby copy, will be in the 9.5 update 3 release?
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Re: Any closer to an ETA for Veeam v10 ?

Post by foggy » Nov 01, 2017 1:40 pm

Hi Angus, do you mean any particular issue that we were going to address in this update? Do you probably have a support case number for it?

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Post by GrayMan » Nov 02, 2017 3:28 pm

When we backup an availability group e.g. two servers one active one in standby in the same Veeam job the active member SQL databases are backed up correctly but we always get VSS unfreeze errors on the standby member. Technically this is a Microsoft issue but Veeam seems to try and do a 'copy only' of the standby member and so initiates a VSS snapshot/freeze. I understood from this post in the forums:

veeam-backup-replication-f2/backup-sql- ... 40892.html

that there was a 'fix' for this in v10. All I'm asking is, given that a lot of stuff is being released in 9.5 U3 is this included?

I am assuming that all it does is avoid requesting VSS snapshots on the standby member once it has determined which one that is.

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Re: Any closer to an ETA for Veeam v10 ?

Post by foggy » Nov 07, 2017 4:25 pm

If you're talking about adding support for Basic Availability Groups discussed in the referred thread, then this is not included in Update 3.

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Re: Any closer to an ETA for Veeam v10 ?

Post by aschillling » Nov 07, 2017 6:08 pm

What's the current status on OEM integration?

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Re: Any closer to an ETA for Veeam v10 ?

Post by foggy » Nov 07, 2017 8:42 pm

Andrew, could you please clarify your question?

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Re: Any closer to an ETA for Veeam v10 ?

Post by GrayMan » Nov 08, 2017 8:59 am

Foggy,

Thanks for the answer on the Availability groups.

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Re: Any closer to an ETA for Veeam v10 ?

Post by r.castello » Nov 09, 2017 7:53 am

Hi,

Any news on the release date of Update 3 for Veeam 9.5?

Thanks,

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Re: Any closer to an ETA for Veeam v10 ?

Post by foggy » Nov 09, 2017 10:27 am

Hi Ruben, it will be released this quarter, stay tuned.

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Re: Any closer to an ETA for Veeam v10 ?

Post by wa15 » Nov 15, 2017 12:01 am

Aww I am guessing that means V10 won't be released this year then :(

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Re: Any closer to an ETA for Veeam v10 ?

Post by LoganThePhyth » Nov 15, 2017 8:23 pm

Any news on VBR 9.5 U3 releasing yet?

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Re: Any closer to an ETA for Veeam v10 ?

Post by veremin » Nov 16, 2017 10:30 am

Alexander's answer is still valid - update should see the light this quarter. Thanks.

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